What’s the process? This is managed by g0v?

Let’s talk about vTaiwan. This is so difficult, and I’ve consistently failed. I try and explain vTaiwan to people all the time and I just can’t. Could you try and describe it in as a compact way as possible?

So you became Digital Minister, eventually?

Then the government came to you, came to g0v, and brought you into government.

How would you best characterize what happened in the wake of Sunflower? Was it a political crisis over democracy itself? Was that what happened, the conversation became…Why was it that the Sunflower, that this could have happened in the first place?

Were you there when they burst in?

That’s when you rigged up live streamed, big screens outside of the Parliament?

You say by the time Sunflower Movement arrives or happens, you’ve already built a civic online architecture for what would happen.

Next was the Sunflower Revolution?

These were almost like civic remixes. Would that be how you’d describe it?

Did that inspire you to become more involved in g0v?

It must have been a huge contrast to you then. You’d come from a world which is all about participation, radical transparency, consensus. Here was the Economic Power-Up Plan, which was essentially just telling people to trust the government.

We should be OK.

Talk to me about the Economic Power-Up Plan.

What made you become interested in moving into conventional politics?

What struck you with how different Internet governance was from normal politics?

Let’s begin at the beginning. You dropped out of school at the age of 14. Could you talk about your early life and your first interactions with Internet governance and the values that you went by…

For the record, I guess, then, first of all, on behalf of the BBC, thank you so much for having us in Taiwan, in your offices, and to allow us to follow you around for a bit.