Trying not to get the Minister of Foreign Affairs angry with me. [laughter] The Umbrella Movement it was very difficult because the sites kept changing - had to make the message heard in many different channels. Many of the Sunflower technologies were deployed during Umbrella. The Civil Society part is still being generator. Can’t yet create a counter-power to Beijing yet, can’t reach consensus as Sunflower did. Social media isn’t the root of the problem, it’s a symptom. Easier to share than to listen. A lot of memetic warfare during Umbrella favors people who can massively generate misinformation. Occupiers didn’t know how to respond (yet). Not prepared for memetic warfare.

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