Thank you.

We will read that aloud around a month from now, asking for real-time response from both our foreign service and yours, and make sure that something that can be implemented gets implemented within a quarter, if possible. If it’s something takes time, then we’ll just say “it takes ...

Yeah, like for example, “all security cooperations need to include Japan.” That’s a definite consensus among groups of very different polarizing opinions.

We welcome all your inputs, and people will press agree or disagree on each of those inputs, because now with the M1A2 and the F16V deals done, people are now brainstorming around next steps.

Talk to AIT, or AIT Digital Dialog is actually ongoing for another month for this topic, which happens to be the expertise of many of you: How to increase security cooperation between Taiwan and the US.

That’s the only divisive statement, and every other statement people have a pretty good consensus around Taiwan’s role in the Pacific, and things like religious tolerance, and so on, and so forth. Some of it, the AIT said we can just go ahead and do it, like sending ...

Every time PRC close the international door for Taiwan, the US should try to open one for Taiwan someplace else. Everybody on the right-hand side agree with it, everybody on the left-hand side disagree with it, so there are real polarizations going on in Taiwan if you ask that question.

Like the first one, how to promote Taiwan’s role in the global community? We see very polarized groups. This is the number one divisive idea.

The foreign service of Taiwan is also working the AIT, the de facto embassy with the CO and everything, on a series of AI-moderated dialogs, which is important because as far as we know, this is really the first time anywhere in the world that two embassies of foreign service ...

We are, with GCTF and so on. In fact, this presentation that you just saw, the initial one anyway, started in a Taiwan-US GCTF workshop, media literacy.

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“She should have opened it three weeks ago.” If that’s the strongest countermeasure, you know that people are generally in favor of radical transparency, yeah.

I think the main attack now is that “she should have done it sooner,” or “it was a campaign strategy for her family to take so long to find her old copy”, or “she was waiting for political opposition to step into the trap.”

Basically, you can only compete on being more radically open, and not the other way around, so because of that, I think nobody contested Dr. Tsai for opening up her dissertation.

People who hold open government views all get elected, sometime without preparing inauguration speeches. It’s something that also happened, I think, in Spain after the 15-M movement as well.

Yeah, I think they’re generally appreciating it. Because radical transparency is the one thing that across parties, people can agree on. After the 2014 mayoral election, which is the last election where mayors still held authoritarian platforms, and all of them lost.

We still have 15 minutes.

We don’t have any MOUs or any controlling relationship, but I understand they work with their own civic hacker movement. Some of them overlapping with the Five Star, but that is the extent that I know about Italy situation.

Then one of the Italian MPs at that time, Stefano Quintarelli, also an experienced ICT entrepreneur, learned about this idea right before there’s a change of cabinet. Then he became just a private sector person again, and then start sharing this idea of g0v, and then just founded an ...

Yeah, I think I talk about this other slide when I was in Vatican, in a sustainability conference organized by Jeffery Saks.

Yeah, it’s an independent group.

We think that’s a safer part, and that’s my opinion also as digital minster. Of course, at the end, the central election committee take care of that, they’re independent organ, but we do provide our opinions.

For the national referendums we are considering, for example, online signature collection, online consensus making during the formation of the referendum items, and even electronic tallying or long-distance voting. That is a separate space, because there’s no exponential return. The most you can do, rig one referendum vote is ...

We use paper technology, because the cybersecurity threat is too strong. For referendum, that’s where our innovation begins, we just changed our referendum to take on alternating years. It’s presidential election year, referendum year, mayor election year, referendum year, so representative, deliberative, representative, deliberative, alternating years.

Multiple parties people livestream such an opening of the ballot so that it’s almost impossible to rig the tallying part, as well.

I was part of the movement that called for the change of regulation that allowed the tallying, like taking out a paper ballot and read what’s on it, to be able to be livestreamed from certain angles where you cannot make the writing style, but you can clearly hear ...

Then in elections, I think we still use paper ballot, we still don’t have long-distance voting, there’s no tallying machines. It’s out proven technology, much smaller attack surface for people who want to rig an election. On the other hand, we practice there also radical transparency.

Because of that, our new systems all have what we call as “purple teaming,” meaning a red team attacking all the time, but also sharing with our blue team, to make sure that they understand from the perspective of attackers, so they can do the threat hunting by themselves and ...

In any case, they get rewarded like national heroes, which they are. Because of this, it’s now a pretty popular career choice for people studying computer science to become a white-hat hackers, and they get very well paid and high social status, so they don’t go to the ...

Also, when they win like the second place in the annual DEFCON CTF, which is like the world cup of cybersecurity white-hat hackers – they still lost to the US team, we’re trying to change that next year.

It’s a guaranteed way to not only have our white-hat hackers, that’s people that crack systems and then say something about it, instead of profiting themselves, they are very well paid now, they are very respected, and they meet with the president and digital minister all the time.

The cybersecurity threat is real, and we allocate five percent to seven percent of all government projects regardless of whether they’re IT related or not on cybersecurity. If people are building a proving ground for self-driving vehicles, five percent goes to cybersecurity. If people are building a new house ...

Sure, sure.

We stand ready to help.

As my name card says: Taiwan Can Help.

Exactly.

Later on I would learn that the foreign service has their own academy, and I didn’t even talk with any foreign service people during that training camp, and that will be remedied only after Joseph Wu become the foreign minister.

Foreign Service has its own training academy. When I was invited to train the civil service, they invited everybody rank 12 or higher, there was exactly 300 people of such a rank. I taught in three workshops with 100 each of them to figure out a communication strategy around the ...

Well @MOFA_Taiwan has a really successful Twitter account. If MOFA can do it, all other ministry can do it. [laughs]

I think the cabinet at that time understood very much the importance, but the public servants at that still need some time to adapt to a much faster news cycle.

Yes, I think so. Mayor Han was his student in graduate school.

During the transition from KMT to DPP.

Chang San-cheng.

I’m really nonpartisan. I worked with the public service during Premier Mao Chi-Kuo and later Premier Chang San-cheng, who is now part of Mayor Han’s presidential campaign, the main brain behind Han now.

Yeah, KMT tried to do something like that at the end of 2014, that was when Premier Mao Chi-Kuo was made Premier, and was the idea of radical transparency, open data, crowdsourcing, whatever as the national direction. Essentially, learning from the occupiers, that’s how we end up being reverse ...

63, 64?

Yes, and the entire population, because broadband is a human right. Our digital adoption rate doesn’t start to trail off until I think 75 years old, so it’s a large swath of population.

Yeah, she’s going online, not only online, but on all the other channels as well.

Of changing her interaction style. More livestreaming, being more of a YouTuber, being in partnership with YouTubers, and take a very multimodal approach of visiting crowdfunding platforms and the Spotify-like start-ups in Taiwan, and so on.