As for the private sector, mostly in Taiwan, the civic tech ecosystem is comprised of people who already work in quite affluent private sectors. Think of MediaTek or Asus, Acer, Trend Micro, and so on. So, because they’re a strong private sector ecosystem of hardware, of course, TSMC as its supply chain, and the cybersecurity who is supporting them. But also, increasingly with Google Look and so on, and so on, the new unicorns, a lot of these have in their mindset that their staff’s contribution to civic tech is not just a good PR and HR strategy, but actually is a good way to test interoperability before their product hits the market.