And also, to your second question, to make meaningful changes that they can start by themselves. But our work, like through the Presidential Hackathon, can make their local work into national infrastructure. That is the trophy, the main gift we give every year for the international and also domestic Presidential Hackathon, is just to make those ideas that only works in one city, India, or one city in Taiwan, into national public infrastructure for the next fiscal year. And that, I think it is good, not just for smart governments and smart cities, but also for smarter citizens.

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