To make that work, we need to prove, for example, like just today, Ukraine open sourced their super app, Diia. But what’s in it for Ukraine other than public diplomacy? It only creates value if other countries contribute to that code base. So there’s a lot to say about adoption, right? Because the public events, the cutting of the ribbons is usually on donating the code base. But the actual value is derived by actually taking up this internationally and form this supermodular, de facto standard around public code across governments. So if Access Now, for example, actually I did sign on the WhyID, right?

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