They compete on being more democratic and more open, because that’s our founding value. The point here is that back in 2014, before we occupied the parliament, there’s this general apathy. People just feel that politics is just tribalist and it’s just zero-sum. It’s not worth the young people’s time to invest into thinking how to do digital services better, because the private sector, which does not have this tribalism, zero-sum stuff, by default deliver things better.

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