I think it’s easier if we start small. If we think about uniting a small town, the kind of digital democracy tools like Pol.is, which we didn’t get to today, has proven time and time again, if you are in a town of maybe 200,000 people, it’s very easy to hold townhalls based on the vTaiwan method, using participation officer like method, and the same, if you work in a company of around 10s of 1000s of people or hundreds of 1000s of people, again it’s very easy to introduce such mechanisms.