The challenge as I see it, is that nobody would see something as a public infrastructure, unless like a highway, a significant amount of people use it day to day. Because otherwise, it’s indistinguishable in day-to-day conversation to another entertainment shop if you have not been to either one, right? But if it is really a highway like place where people do frequent and that’s the reason why public parks are all over the community, right? You can see a public park if you just walk a couple blocks, so you can’t avoid the idea that there are public parks in the society. So, if we make it as easy to access and as popular as that, based on those common experiences, then people will say, oh, let’s go there instead of the entertainment sector when we have civic and public discussions.

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