And so, that channel ended up providing the most important thing to reduce people’s queuing time. And that’s just one example, but it shows that Howard Wu or Finjon Kiang, or others civic hackers from Tainan, they never need to travel to Taipei City to meet me. They just hop on this online place, the g0v-zero channel, and started typing away and asking open-ended questions like how should we make this more resilient and to be more distributed. And so, it ended up getting more than 100 different Civic Tech teams visualizing or “audio-lizing,” through voice assistance and things like, the same open API information that we publish every 30 seconds.

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