Your second question, when I joined in late 2014 there was still Ma Ying-jeou’s presidency, and I worked as a reverse mentor to a minister at the time, Minister Jacklyn Tsai. I wouldn’t say that it is particularly partisan about it, this the public service collectively seeing the occupy as a demonstration, but not as a protest. As a demo, as a demo of this new way of governance actually gets consensus more effectively.

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