Jaclyn, I think was very helpful when she knew that I was also going to carry on Feng Yen’s work. She said, "Don’t just focus on the CSR part because, CSR, there’s a limited quantity. If you focus too much on the message there, then it actually harms the sector because the sector would not grow. But if you come up with new narrative, then people will talk to you from the business development perspective.

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