That’s right.
I don’t know if this is even technically possible, but again we are brainstorming. This is why I wanted to do coffee, really relax. One of the debates that you had with David from Uber...
To try to figure something out?
It is true, yes. (laughs) Don’t rub it in.
Oh, come on. You’re much more technically savvy on this than I am.
I’m not.
If I am, then you are?
It’s OK. It got me this far to understanding that entire thing in Chinese. Anyway, are you guys trying to do something with Ethereum? What’s going on with that?
Hey, it got me this far.
Oh, OK.
Right. (laughs) That’s a way that we can figure out the UX. Even if the people don’t really understand, at least you could...
I don’t.
I don’t. I understand context, which is great because Chinese is very contextual. (laughs)
But it’s in Chinese. I had to fumble my way through it.
...vTaiwan for example, or creating some kind of more...
Are you trying to use some kind of blockchain technology to put behind...
By the way you met with Vitalik Buterin. That guy is insane. He’s wonderful.
It’s like some kind of blockchain thing [Ethereum], it is self‑funding.
Really? But if everybody’s in charge, then no one is in charge.
Everybody here?
Who will be in charge of that?
So this is something that the ministry will be making public and creating...
You have two weeks to finish this up [referencing to the end of the year coming in 2 weeks].
At least they’re there and...
"Ideas hopefully worth spreading - Digital Ministry of Taiwan." I get it. [laughs]
That’s our motto, "ideas hopefully worth spreading."
Like TED?
That’s what you practice here?
OK.
I’m not here representing the private sector...
Don’t watch that if you want to sleep. It’s horrible.
Everybody has an avatar, and they vote. (laughs).
Yeah, it’s kind of like that "Black Mirror" episode, the one where they...
Right, you have that Virtual...
[reads from landing page] "We incubate and facilitate public digital innovation and service."
I see.
What does PDIS stand for?
You mean vTaiwan?
OK, so how would you, as in the office of the Digital Ministry, like to create that bridge? You mentioned one of the things you’d like to talk about is creating that bridge to the international community. Do you see certain strategies of doing that?
OK. How are we going to do that?
OK, how can we be more unique? Do we have a way of creating this unique Taiwan tech hub?
I’m was getting pumped here.
Oh, oh.
That’s not what I meant though, but I like that...
You mean physically?
When they hit?
