Yeah, goal, mission, vision, I don’t know. See yourself as, I know it sounds awkward, but as a business that’s trying to...

Oh, translate. That’s easy.

All right, different kind of credit. That’s perfect. All right, so how can I help?

I understand. I was like, "Oh, wow. It’s amazing." But no, you mean "transcribed by Manuel Edghill," that kind of credit. Well you have to remember the frame of mind I’m coming from here... [laughs]

I understand. I had the wrong definition of "credit".

Like a peer‑to‑peer rating kind of thing?

Yeah? How does that work? Through the system?

You’re giving credit to the...?

Oh really?

"Please provide a photo for your proposal by 3:00 PM."

...proposal, the idea is to be scalable. We have so many proposals here that everybody’s engaged in each aspect of politics, so you have to have somebody figuring out how are we going to scale up?

I’m just trying to figure out the more efficient way to do this, because if you have a picture for every...

Virtual is OK. "Virtual", that would work. "Virtual crowdsourcing policy agenda". (laughs)

Virtual, oh, OK.

All right. How come it’s V? Victory?

I would put these bigger. I would create some divide between each section. Is that our logo, vTaiwan?

All are able to link to Google Translate, automatically?

These are under review right? These are topics under review. Is that what that says here? [pointing to section of mock-up]

Well it’s much better, a huge improvement. [referring to new mockup]

Maybe like an RSS feed?

Do I have a newsletter or sign‑up?

Can I sign up and get feedback? I don’t want to be coming back here all the time to see if my resolution that I’m involved with...

What is the call to action? What do you me to do? Engage on this...

I see.

This is a different website?

OK, so like a users’ manual here?

I would imagine.

(laughs) OK.

OK, then introduce me. Or, if this stage is going to be forever long, why don’t we try to get some tab system under the main banner that will split this? All this are lazy-loaded, right? [pointing to long list of images/topics]

Can it go here? These are the topics? [referring to bottom part of new mock-up]

I will make them big. Look at all this empty space. This is important.

Maybe we might want to put that there.

Are these tabs?

Is that what that means? They literally kick you out?

Oh, all right.

Is that what that says at the bottom?

At the bottom?

Then, for example, what happened to the Uber and Airbnb topics?

No, you don’t have to go for it.

Can I search for a person? I don’t know what the name is (of the topic), but I know that Audrey Tang is...or I know that.

There’s search by topic I assume - the topic that I’m interested on there?

Are these the top hottest topics? How are you going to dictate what goes up in the banner?

Oh, so these are the topics?

All right.

Are we in?

Really? That’s great.

Who made it?

You’re talking? I’m guessing it’s projecting your face?

Can I see it?

You dressed it up?