It’s such a pity because it’s a good idea of having all of government digital, or else everyone does the identification differently and all the stuff’s wrong. Anyway, really nice speaking to you about it. Take care.
Gee, maybe we should advise them what you do.
Yeah, that’s good because they just recruit externally and then everyone doesn’t trust them.
The departments are quite happy to work with you?
We have Digital Transformation Agency, but none of the departments really know how to interact with it. They do their own things still. It’s quite hard, but you do it.
That’s so good. That’s great.
There we are. Thank you so much, Audrey. That’s lovely. There we are. It’s so nice that you’re digital minister for all different disciplines, yeah?
There’s a lot of similarities.
Did I or not? Probably not.
Lovely. Did I give you a card?
Yeah, for sure.
You get the vibe very quickly and it’s really nice. It’s quite succinct, the response the government gave. It’s quite succinct and it’s pretty amazing.
You can send me the link to the draft because that would time very well to the work that we’re doing in our software industry. I’m going to have to get our skates on because that’s due on the 18th and I called the members to come ...
That’s so good.
It must be because we got everyone registered, but do they use it? No.
No outcome, it’s actually the box ticking.
Yeah, that’s right.
Yeah. This would be easier for me.
The cause of the lack of transparency, it just goes on and on and on. It’s terrible for technology.
It’s incredibly frustrating. They then find the project fails, but because they chose the supplier, they bury it. Instead of it being transparent and there being a case study on, "My God, why did we waste $2 billion on that pile of rubbish," they bury it. They try not ...
The bureaucrat, because they don’t understand the technology, is scared, so they were risk averse. They go with these old technologies. They alienate all of the innovation and all these people who put in investment into things that are new and cutting edge and would actually do it more ...
They haven’t got no idea. They go back into what they think would be the best or safest mode, which is, "Let’s get Accenture, IBM, blah, blah, blah." I’m not saying they’re bad companies, but they’re usually just providing whatever is convenient for them to ...
From our industry point of view is probably the biggest issue because you get bad IT because people procuring it don’t understand it.
They agreed with it, which was really good news, but nothing happened. That was a year ago. That’s because of all the churn in the government and the agency. It just came out, I just saw it today, they want comments now on how they can implement it by ...
OK. Now, what’s happened? I think because the Digital Transformation Agency in Australia had three CEO recently. I’ve lost track of where it’s all got to. The government came back to them and said, "We agree with these fundamentally 10 recommendations on ICT."
We had the ICT Procurement Task Force listening to the roundtables. Then, we put in submissions. Then, the government responded. I can send you the link if you are interested.
It was telcos, banks, everyone involved. I was involved with that last year. We put in a submission. Surprisingly enough, all of the different disciplines had the same issues. The telcos had the same issue. The banks had the same issues as the engineers. It’s all in tick, but ...
That’s great. Your timing is very good because just on the way here...The government in Australia changes all the time, as you know, but they released ICT procurements guidelines, which I was involved with in the health industry, but it was multi-vertical.
Thank you so much. I really appreciate you having the time today, and I love the sound of what you’re doing, and I’d be really happy to share what we do and see.
I’ve been telling you about the problems of people getting their arthritis at 30. You’re telling me about this very sophisticated language policy. Hopefully we can exchange on different things and do it a bit better.
You guys are way ahead of us in that side with our indigenous, aren’t you? We’re getting there.
That’s extraordinary. I had no idea, this is super interesting.
And they tend to stay there, or the children come and want to live in Taiwan?
Oh, my God.
That’s amazing. How old are those cultures?
This looks a little bit like pidgin to me, because I got married in Papua New Guinea, and my husband’s first language was pidgin. This looks a little bit like that, looks a lot easier than Chinese.
Gosh, that’s wonderful, isn’t it?
Thank you very much. That’s appreciated.
Yeah, absolutely. I haven’t thought of First Nations, of course. And why would they not be First Nations?
That’s interesting. I haven’t thought of First...
What are the islands like off Taiwan? How are they? Are they...
That makes sense, so I’ll send you the stuff through when I get back or earlier, and then we’ll set up a week or something when you’ve got some time. Beautiful.
Whatever they’re more comfortable with. Yeah, for sure. Perfect. That’s good.
Beautiful, perfect, so I’ll send you that. Do you want me to send you that and give you sometimes as well?
Yeah, you’ll get that. You’ll see the architecture, and you’ll understand why we will have obviously moved on, so that’s good.
The fundamental architecture’s the same. Subsequently they’ve moved on our few different platforms, but it’s...Yeah, you’ll get a...
It’s a good base, and then we can give you, if you’re interested after you have a look at it actually working, because we’ve...Since that video, that’s probably about four years old, we’ve rebranded, we’ve done a lot more, so it’s quite ...
It was to describe to a mixed group, some very technical, very not technical, the different types of shared records, why you have a platform like ours, showing you how you extract the data, upload it, and create archetypes, so you get a good sense.