People will be refining it by adding information?
Which is provided by the government?
This is on an open platform?
Roughly when do you think the whole thing will be resolved or…
You can still update the beta test approach.
There is now already a simpler system, is there?
The whole thing is still being debated basically.
Has that happened already, or that’s going to happen?
Is that the same one? No, that’s a different website.
Just on this forest and mountain thing, is that now resolved? Is it finished?
Anyone with relevant knowledge can be part of it.
Is that usually easy to get agreement?
You vote for the ones which you think are the most important?
The voting method is what, between the different ministerial people?
Is it evolving?
Do you feel that the system is working as well as it could do?
Is there one for every ministry?
The participation officers, their role is to get public participation, to respond…
Was this your own sort of…?
You didn’t copy it from somewhere else, this is your…
Is there something like that in ministries in other countries?
When did that job start?
The officers you mentioned in each ministry, sorry, what did you say they were called?
You set up lots of debates.
The Secretary General?
You still needed four separate documents…?
That’s publicly…?
What was the name of the platform you just mentioned, the website?
[laughs]
That was Wang Jin-pyng.
Was that always the case, or is that something you introduced?
On any topic.
They complain about it and you hear about it, or do they come to you? Did the government decide we got to do something about this? I just wonder how the process begins. Is it totally bottom-up or is it top-down? [laughs]
Just one of the things, going back to the thing you mentioned about the mountains and the forests, can I just check the beginning of that whole debate. How did that become one of your topics? Was it…?
Do you help to find these enterprises or to take them abroad?
Yeah. Did you go…?
Can I ask you, did you go on these trips as well?
In other words, they’re on a list. If people somewhere in the world are interested, you can find the right people.
You said there are 400 of these organizations?
I guess my question is, really there’s no conflict of interest that you’re just promoting one private company.
They’re a private company? They’re a for-profit company?
Are they a company?
They’re a social enterprise?
When you mentioned this Kaohsiung organization who…
I heard that.
Did you start this whole system?
Is that something that you promoted?
…from the grassroots into the system.
The definition of reverse mentorship is bringing someone…
For example, can I just ask you, you mentioned was it Addis Ababa you went? What were you doing there, just out of interest?