Thank you so much.

Is that an area that can come within your remit, in terms of education?

There’s much more. There’s still more that needs to be done.

Finland just made a big breakthrough.

Is Taiwan now a sufficiently equal society, would you say, in gender equality?

In terms of the achievement, that a woman for the first time became a president.

No, sure.

She’s still the first one. [laughs]

Can I just add one final question – I’ve talked to lots of people about different issues related to gender, related to what the government is doing. Just on a really simplistic question, do you think it’s important that Taiwan now has a female president?

Do you think that there’s a lot of interest in that from the people in the PRC, grassroots?

Was that recently?

What was the talk in Hangzhou?

You weren’t physically there.

From your office, can you actually go and do things in Hong Kong?

…less open to many types of difference. When you look at the mainland, do you feel that that’s a society… that Taiwan and the mainland one day can grow together? How do you see the situation for people there?

For example, I’ve been living in Mainland China. We’ve been watching society developing a lot in the last 20 years. Of course, it became much more open in many ways, but recently we perhaps see that the government is…

One last question. I don’t know if you want to answer it.

In terms of identity in general, this is new.

I didn’t know that. That’s quite significant.

Was that last year when it was changed?

You do feel that that consciousness or that attitude, is becoming more common in Taiwan?

You never felt much resistance from society.

So when your awareness of this issue was developing, did it feel like it was very difficult in society at that time?

Sorry, I used the wrong word.

If you don’t mind me asking, when you made that choice, was it very difficult at that time?

Are there many such people here?

I guess my question is, how far have the norms changed?

Do you think it would be possible to get that approved and make law in the near future?

That helps to promote.

What about for local citizens?

For foreign residents, or…?

In terms of having legal status, is that satisfactory?

Oh, really?

That was a reverse mentor in the ministry of education.

No, but I mean, is that an area that you’re promoting debate on, or…?

Yeah, OK. Can I ask you, I don’t know what your views are, but in terms of, say, rights for trans-gender people, that has not been fully resolved?

That would take time then?

No, but when it comes to same sex marriage, for example? Is most of the support for it from young people?

Do you feel that the Taiwanese society is still very divided by generation when it comes to, say, attitudes to same sex…?

There’s nothing…?

You’re doing now a sort of dialog…?

Is it not legal now? Would it not be legal?

When you mentioned the future changes or possibilities…?

That was the previous law, was it?

OK, because this was about the inheritance and so on?

The people who are married, do they not get the same legal status as…?

Some people said actually, that you had the referenda last year. They felt that the government ignored the result of the referenda.

Do you feel that what did happen, in the passing of the law, that was an important break-through for Taiwanese society?

You mean other countries in East Asia?

Some people were concerned that it didn’t include the adoption rights.