"I may be bald now but I would not punish people like that," says the Premier.

Right. Then, within just one hour, our Premier, Su Tseng-chang just basically created a very funny advertisement, a meme I would call it, that basically says there’s a popular rumor that says the Premier will punish people who perm their hair, it’s not true.

For example, I don’t know, the premier of the administration punishing people who dye and perm their hair twice in a week. That was a rumor, actually [laughs] .

Well, we have found the most effective is really just to make the clarifications as viral as the rumors, and then also distribute it very widely and very quickly after an hour at most of each campaign. We found that to be very useful because if you wait for a ...

Well, they’re online. It’s just they’re on LINE, right?

They mostly, I think, do it in the information layer, not so much on the hard cybersecurity layer. That is to say we don’t see, for example, breaking into candidates’ emails or things like that. We don’t see that yet. It’s mostly on the information operation level.

Yeah, it’s the sustainable development goals.

...the pin that we just printed.

Thank you. I something to give to you as well.

Awesome.

OK.

I’m happy to help promote it on social media and so on.

I think that’s by far, the easiest...

If it’s offered, for example, under a non-commercial-use license, meaning that people can’t use it to sell tickets, but they’re feel free to screen it anywhere physically in Taiwan. If you agree with such a term, you can say so on YouTube. Then, we would distribute it everywhere.

That’s probably the easiest way. Then we would take the URL of that YouTube video and distribute it to a bunch of partners. The licensing deal takes time to negotiate. Not all MPOs or university for that matter have the capacity to negotiate licensing.

May I ask if a not-for-profit organization want to show your film, for example, the marriage equality platform and so on, if they want to show the film do they pay specifically a fixed fee of license to you?

OK.

It’s not an exclusive deal or is it?

Sure. As for distribution partners, nowadays in Taiwan, lots of people just use what we call OTT platforms, Netflix being the larger one. Of course, there’s many domestic ones as well. HiNet has its own MOD and so on. Have you been in talk with any of the OTT?

Awesome.

All right, so let’s get started.

We’ll make a transcript, and I’m sure ST has already...

Thank you so much.

It’s good.

...if not Osaka. [laughs] I’ll see Vitalik in Osaka.

Excellent. See you in Berlin...

All right, that’s pretty much it.

Just a few days, but I’m happy to attend also in RxC capacity if it helps. I’ll be in Berlin November 21st to 23rd, if there are follow-ups or meetings that I should attend. I’m already scheduled to visit Mozilla, which is, again, ideologically very close to us. I’m happy ...

It’s good if there’s someone from a local chapter. I don’t have anyone immediately in mind that will be around Berlin at that time. I will be in Berlin in November though.

I would suggest, if there are people who already came to the conference, then maybe start there. They can work as liaisons. Even if I show up, I stay in Germany for one year when I was 11, but my Deutsch is very rusty.

There’s 83 people joining that Meetup, so not too bad.

I’m aware, but not familiar with them. Is there a RxC Berlin chapter?

Not GovLab? OK, dGov, Distributed Governance with a lower-case D.

There is.

Yes. The Governance Lab. I don’t know about the Berlin activity. I guess it depends on the topic.

The Gov Lab, you mean the NYU one, right?

Presence. I’ll be in Osaka.

Yes, of course. I’m part of their global advisory group.

There’s no guarantee that if you win it will be adopted by the public sector. That makes the social and private sector have to find their own funding model. That precludes maybe half of these idea from happening. This is why we have special meeting for the president’s trophy.

That’s right. We learn it from the g0v grants. g0v grants learned it from Germany, from the Prototype Fund. We have witnessed that Prototype Fund is very good on encouraging failure. The successes are not guaranteed to enter into federal or state budget.

The SDG process ensure that anything that increase the social optimality gets...No girl left behind, was their slogan. It’s bound to be part of SDG. We’re not saying that if you propose indexing on SDG at the beginning. We will find you an SDG target.

No. It’s not like that. We index them into the 169 SDG topics after we see their proposal. The Presidential Hackathon is about social innovation. It must make a positive impact on the society environment. It’s very rare that somebody propose something that’s not tied to a SDG topic.

Right. About half of them are initiated by the public sector, half of them from the social sector.

Anybody can propose something. Using QB, we sort them into the top 20.

Anyone can get one submitted.

This is the second year. Previously, it didn’t reach a lot of people. At 120 processes, mostly just a dozen judges. Now, because of QB, there’s easily thousands more people now actively looking at each of the topics.

It has international appeal. Every year the president give out a award to five teams. The five teams are guaranteed to become part of public policy in the next year.

They just informed us they are also very interested in the water box. They have dairy farmers that, at one hand, requires clean water from upstream and is often accused by downstream that they pollute the water. They want something that prove that E. coli didn’t come from them and ...