It’s not the garden in your house, it’s your house in the garden.

Then they decided to do the bike lanes. There was also a top-down plan and it worked pretty well, yeah.

The massive change, I think, happened around the Taipei International Flower Expo. Before, it was communities that take care of those gardening stuff. Around the International Flower Expo. The city government said, “Why don’t we just connect all the rings, and make them look good.”

Yeah, it’s fashionable to have an edible landscape, and also rooftop gardens and green walls. It is just trendy. It’s no longer trendy. It was trendy 10 years ago, but people still keep it running, I guess.

That’s one, because edible landscape is a fashion.

Sure.

SIOs, we have over 400 of them now. There’s no way you can visit all them in a single trip. That’s literally impossible. You can do some quantitative analysis, I guess. It’s a database, after all.

The social sector sees that it doesn’t have to work with a very westernized culture, where the rational must always be spelled out. Rather, if you have fights over food, and their fights over food, you actually get to know each other really well really quickly. That’s community-building idea.

An equilibrium, let’s translate it as that. I think the equilibrium thinking seeks a constantly-revisable rough consensus. That enables a culture where we can agree to disagree much easier. That, I think, is also a key of why the social sector grows so rapidly.

If your culture is already about showing somebody that you are the boss, [laughs] then so much for rational discussion. In Japan – and also, Japan influenced Taiwan – I don’t know how to translate, but 和 is important.

In some countries, some jurisdictions, some cultures, there is this kind of fighting, debating culture, which is good. It may also make deliberation something that’s utopian, because it would, in a Habermas fashion, assume a rational agent.

They actually sat down and reach a multi-stakeholder consensus. I think Taiwan has the right culture to seek common understanding above fine consensus. If we try to strive for fine consensus, people with the most time win, whether they are offline or online.

I think this is a very fruitful line of collaboration, using the term “circle economy,” where kind of successful to get the business sector to start taking this very seriously. Also, the 16-year young lady who petitioned for the plastic straw banning didn’t have to go to strike on Fridays.

I will certainly do.

Re:public is a good team to be with. They have the right connections.

No, it’s good. It’s almost art, without the shocking parts.

I’m aware of that.

Super walkable. I walked all day.

I really like that area is what I’m saying.

They don’t seem that much…It’s a really nice place to live, but I don’t see as many Fab Labs. I really like the pace. It’s very smooth, and people are really friendly, and so on. I was there for a TED talk. They’re really happy that I went there in ...

That’s awesome. I also visit the Vitoria Estates?

I know. I think they are still keep council running, if not contributing.

There is actually something like a kinship. I think, Xuyang went in my stead the following year. Then the rest, you know.

The ambiance is right there. The situational awareness, the ambiance, I just can’t taste the food. That’s the only shortcoming. When people party, I’m embodied and can party with people. I had a conversation and got a photo with Pablo, which is also an assistive device.

First, traveling as a robot for a few weeks, and then I fly in, using carbon avatar, and they see me still as a continuation of personality. That was a really nice experiment, because in 360 camera, when I drive the robot around, I can wear VR goggles and turn ...

There’s a lot of Horizon 2020 continuation project. I lost track, but I am interested in all of them. I try to attend as much I can. I think Pablo Soto and also, Iago, we’re all very good friends. I spent quite some time, even after being the digital minister, ...

Yeah, virtually. I’ve been many time to Madrid from the days of democratic cities. That was before DCOT, right?

Not physically.

I very much look forward to visit Ethiopia. I’ve heard that Addis Ababa has really, really consolidated its infrastructure. It may actually have broadband Internet. A lot of our work only works in a broadband as human right environment. We’re being very honest about that.

Hopefully sometime this year. Just let me know. I’ll be mostly visiting, I don’t know, four continents, seven cities, until the end of the year, so I might not be around. ST will likely be around. Actually, not when we go to Ethiopia, but we will still have somebody around. ...

OK, that works. When are you…like this year?

Oh, yeah?

It all depends on how long are you planning to be out next time. We can plan for the next visit, yeah.

Oh, Eileen. OK, that’s great.

Who is that?

No…

There’s, I guess, lots of fun for the Wednesday. If you want to visit Thailand, Esti also has a list.

There’s a lot of AI that can help to make the culture translation quick. It’s also space-making, fills the online space, and also in the courtroom literally. We invited also the judicial branch to share their education innovations. They’re one of the winner of presidential efforts this year as well, ...

They developed an AI that translates a very difficult to pass judgment or a regulatory resolution into easy to explain factors, and also expand the hard to understand words into common, understandable words, and things like that.

…on the morning of Wednesday. Even the judicial branch is going to be here, because we’re introducing a jury system for the first time. A lot of legalese must be made understandable by the common people. That, broadly speaking, is also education.

All this is very new, like new as of this September. We just had a new K-12 curriculum, so people are figuring out together how this inter-disciplinary, inter-dependence curriculum does even mean. That’s something, maybe you can meet some stakeholders if you come here…

People who want to introduce philosophy in their curriculum can also do so now. People in the French style, and people who want to introduce use eSports as their curriculum can also do so now, and train them to be responsible youth advisers or something.

We are trying to figure out how to establish it, right?

Wednesday here, there’s going to be a bunch of SIOs focusing on education innovation. They’re also around Taiwan, they want education like in Japan, I think you have food and agricultural education, this kind of education category. We don’t yet. Starting this year, there’s room in the curriculum for that ...

Yeah. That’s in Taichung. You are already left by then, right? The travelers are going to be invited by them on Thursday.

Sometimes, writers when they in, participate and lend them some facilitation skills, or sing them a prayer, or something. That kind of ministry.

Maybe there’s some natural gatherings. I’m going to an indigenous kind of young people to revitalize their indigenous nations. That’s this weekend, because during the weekends, the local young people organize their own artistic holder forums.

No, none of them are must go. That’s the resource. If you know someone you’re going to be introduced into a lot of meeting other people. There really is no best beginning.

ST would has a more up-dated list of the key SIOs.

That creates tension. That’s why we’re saying, “You don’t have to think that if you are working for a social purpose it cuts into your profits. If you are designed for circularity, actually, you tap into a much larger market in the investment community than you can possibly imagine. You ...