This is just for the sound test?

There’s six computing devices here. All right.

Here I use Ubuntu Linux on Windows 10.

...so not take that as representative. We don’t have that many anarchist Ministers around here.

As a conservative anarchist, I’m probably the only public servant in the cabinet who doesn’t have a Taiwanese identity, so you’re going to have an incorrect sample...

What would you like me to talk about?

You’ll get a transcript in a few days, maybe two days.

Yeah, the Gear VR. Thank you for the questions.

No, I did not. I’m very familiar with surgeries, but not that one.

The sex reassignment surgery? No, not at all.

It’s to remove this inflaming part of the appendix, which is the part of the gut that doesn’t do anything. I was suffering from appendicitis at the time.

No, it’s a regular surgery.

Appendectomy.

They’re supporting this effort, that’s right.

They want to welcome me into the cabinet, anyway. One day this general went in and...

It’s something that I have no connection with, because I’m not in touch with national secrets. They want to welcome me, anyway.

Yes.

From the so‑called cyberspace army.

To welcome me to the cabinet.

It’s a gift from the Ministry of Defense.

I would say, it’s pretty much constant contact. Not just with a party, but with the wider open government, open culture people.

We have constant contact. There’s now a gov‑zero cooperation with the Code for All, the Prototype Fund, I think, was the name. The Prototype Fund, from Eileen Wagner, also of the Open Knowledge Foundation, because we’re doing a lot of the same thing, we received a tech grant and things ...

Cool. He probably remembers Taipei. Two years later we still have visitors from Germany, but I don’t think it’s the Pirate Party anymore. It’s the Open Knowledge Foundation, Julia Kloiber, and so on.

That’s right.

When was it? Just a second. It must have been in 2014. Exactly, it’s November eight, and the speaker Gregory Engels.

When they visited Taiwan for the gov‑zero summit I interviewed the party leader at the time.

Quite a bit.

No, I don’t know. I haven’t heard any of my German friends say "terrific."

Yeah, terrific is an English loan word, isn’t it?

Terrific.

I still read German, but I haven’t checked German. Last time, when we had a Spanish person here, we checked the Spanish, I believe. We also checked pretty regularly the Chinese. Our website’s in English. That’s the thing. Let’s try German. Maybe it will work, maybe it will not. You ...

It’s AI‑generated. We don’t know whether it will be reasonable or not. I, personally, haven’t checked the German translation, myself.

Our website is pdis.tw, and you’re welcome to check the German translations.

Yeah, to have a surgery.

Appendectomy, cutting away this appendix. Around five or six.

Appendectomy? At six.

A female puberty, development of breasts and everything, and a male puberty back when I was 13. My natural testosterone level around 20‑something is a normal level for men 70‑something. I was born with a naturally low testosterone level, somewhere between average for men and average for women. It didn’t ...

I went through a female puberty, I’ll say.

There’s no physical women. There’s physical females. [laughs]

No, nothing comparable to heart surgeries, no.

Removal of facial hair, which is a laser microsurgery, and Botox, but I don’t do that anymore, which is to clean away the muscles around the cheekbones.

Quite a few surgeries. They’re minor.

There’s a frenzy. It’s true. It’s the dot‑com days, so people were more confident than they should be. That’s also one of the reasons. Generally, people I met over the web said, "You should be fine."

That’s right, but there’s a lot of hackers. I read in the Jargon File that in the hacker community, they value people who drop out more, versus people with similar degrees. I ran into people on the online community who dropped out to pursue their work.

Going to join this team of entrepreneurs and drop out of the school...

The World Wide Web.

Like, "How’s they going to survive?" this kind of way. A lot of my teachers in my junior high did say that pretty plainly to me, explaining that I would probably go nowhere and I should be aware of that. I’m like, "You haven’t seen this World Wide Web thing. ...

That’s right.

My senior high school friends all said it’s a massive waste of time, and as long as I still read a book a week, or so, I should be fine.

No.