OK, I’ll keep it in mind.

Yes.

Yeah, but I can do that in the Q&A. I don’t have to do it in the first 10 minutes.

OK.

See, I’m not attending there in person. I would like to make connections to people working in the civil society, especially in the local-level government, local organizers, who can much easier deploy this kind of methodology than the national government, which is very difficult.

Maybe I just didn’t...

The bridge from the, "...and now it’s transforming our society, but before I tell you about it, I’d like to invite your participation." Though this part didn’t feel that natural, but I just...

As you mentioned, the participation officer part, I can cut it by half, and I’ll work on it.

That’s right. Anything else I need to improve on?

Yeah, that’s the beginning of the g0v movement. Then we start doing that for every other website as well.

Yes.

Yeah, sure.

Anyone can just look at any one part of the Taipei City budget on this map and type in any question they want to ask and a career public servant actually comes to the phone and answer for that part of the question. It becomes a direct dial up platform, ...

After the g0v did this and after the occupying after the election, the Taipei City Government, the newly elected mayor, an Occupier himself, just copy and paste it, this whole thing to Taipei’s budget program as the participatory budget platform for the Taipei City.

Bubbles correspond to the size of the budget. If you click on each one, you see it shows the nitty-gritty details. You can also switch to the bird’s eye view that lets you, well, it’s taking its time. Yes, so you can drill down to each and every budget details.

What this does is that it shows the national budget according to every different ministries, and it’s showing the ones that’s raising year after year in green and decreasing year after year in red.

It’s in Chinese. I hope it works. Yeah, it works. Right, it doesn’t matter.

One example? The canonical example is that the annual national budget is 500 pages long, is a PDF nobody actually read it. The g0v people, the very first project was this budget that g0v.tw, which shows the national budget in a way that everybody understands. I can actually open it, ...

Sure.

We did that for many different government websites.

The g0v movement is this idea that instead of blaming the government for not doing something right, the civil society can do a prototype, and do that thing well, to show the government how to do it.

No, it’s OK.

The Sunflower Movement, and we’re able to scale the deliberation by deploying civic technology from the g0v movement.

This talks about how many sides there is.

This is the occupy.

Thank you.

Yes, this part.

Yes.

"Empathetic," that’s much better.

I think we need to build a unified democracy, not hijacked by ideologies. We need to build an efficient democracy that respond to the demands of the environment, and a pragmatic democracy that will let people take care of each other’s feelings. We do this just by listening and building ...

Anyone anywhere on Earth can run this idea of taking something like a non-resolvable singularity, and turn it over into what we call a plurality that will listen to one side and then the other side across a time dimension, resolving our differences. Then eventually know what we ask of ...

The process itself is free. The process itself is a free software project, so you don’t have to go through the Taiwanese government if you want to run it for your local government. You can just take our code and process, and fork it.

The best thing is that this process itself is in the commons. You don’t have to go through the Taiwanese...

We bring the technology to people, instead of asking disadvantaged people to use technology. We can build a deliberation system that scales to all the local communities, the regional community, and the national policy-making community, for everything.

We need to build a ladder between the two polar opposites. We need to build a sharing of open data. We need to build interactive public Q&A forums. That’s where we are at, at the moment.

It’s the ending, actually. It’s just another minute after this. The idea is that voting and clicktivism is very easy. Everybody can do it, like four bits every four years, but it’s not much bits. Or we can do hacktivism, and occupy the parliament to exercise agenda-setting power and transform ...

...it’s fine.

I just go to the other slide?

That’s right.

Yeah, "dutiful" is great.

Indeed.

This time, everything was automated, they only put one or two people forward, and they still get a pretty good result.

We were able to solve a lot of very interesting problems like this, without any ministry committing too much people to it. That relieved their fear, uncertainty, and doubt, since the time when we did the Uber deliberation.

Now, in Taiwan, when people start to get a petition, they know instead of a written, nonsensical response from any minister, they will actually get to meet with all the relevant ministries, either in Taipei, where the capital is, or we will fly to those rural areas and islands, if ...

After I become the digital minister, we asked each ministry to send a team, at least one person, to serve as participation officer. We assembled this virtual team of 50 people online, using Slack, using all those online tools, and trained them to face the people directly.

The reason why is that often, when people propose something, it touches many different ministries. The one ministry designated to answer for it can only answer for the little part that it has in this policy suggestion.

Also, we had a e-petition platform as a way for people to participate. It was like the "We the People" platform in the US. It really didn’t receive much attention before I was the digital minister, because people would get those very blank, very bureaucratic answers that doesn’t really solve ...

Now we have a free software community inside the national government... How do I bridge into this?

That’s exactly right.