This conversation is about the relationship between the AI or IT and so human beings. Our science work at Toshiba, the new Toshiba CEO said, so he told that these two decades Japanese are getting weak in the economics industry however so they want to catch up the AI or IT technology however, we don’t think we can catch up only in the IT area, so Shimada-san CEO of Toshiba said so manufacturing is a good point of Japanese industry. So he mentioned that the relationship between the hardware and the AI or software or something. So how do you think about the relationship between the hardware and AI or IT. So what is the role of manufacturing of hardware in the digital era?