Well, and it takes the whole meeting. And so what they do is they say, okay, if we start spending too much time on stupid point, they call it bike shed pattern, and everybody knows what it means. So what they did was they write it out, and then they share these patterns with everybody, each other. Do you know this stuff? And so that I think is a really good way of governance where everyone’s sharing but not forcing and the best practices win.

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