I’m curious from another historical perspective, how the Taiwanese government hacker community of which you were part reflected or responded when we had the Edward Snowden revelations and the greater awareness of the American National Security Agency’s, tactical operations, which involved trying to weaken thetrustworthiness of hardware coming out of other parts of the world, including the US. Does the same norms that you talk about, trustworthiness with respect to PRC, apply to other states, operators, and other countries?

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