It’s not a bad fiction, certainly not worse than the corporate limited liability as a legal fiction, [laughs] as a legal personhood. I think these referendums serve as bridges that brings us from a more limited adult only – and I care about it a lot because I participated as a teenager a lot in politics – adult-only democracy [laughs] into one that take care of not only the really young people, but also people in the next generation, also the environmental factors, as well as the biosphere that will collectively decide the sustainability.

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