Thank you.

Personal channel for the job. [laughs]

I think that is actually leading to have some sharing with you. It must be very interesting and helpful for both sides.

This morning, we go to the NanKang Incubation Center so they can see a lot of our support for the biotechnology part, because it is part of our strengths.

Yes, that’s right. Our open house event was a very good example for the small township revitalization I want to show them. This is a very different way for the innovation in Taipei City. I try to show the real ecosystem looks like.

Yes.

Yes. That’s why I brought them. Actually, the private word I need to say is that I didn’t report to anyone or I’m afraid that we don’t have the very free talk. Probably, the reference I need to prepare one month or two months ago, and probably the original one ...

Yes.

I’m not quite sure of TIIP, because we’re already direct to just General Liu. I know the Deputy Minister, Mr. Kung, is charged for the start-up ecosystem, as well.

Yes, because TIIP is the program under IDB. Now, the Director General is Mr. Liu. What I want to do, because from the corporate innovation standing point, for the ecosystem builder’s perspective, I’m talking about Parveen. Probably I will have a mutated Future 50 Taiwan with the TIIP. I want ...

For us, it’s very interesting. If the open house event, the attendants are all start-ups, that would be great. Everyone is very enjoy in networking exchange messages and talking about the corporation. If we invite a traditional corporate visit, that they’re together, nobody, no one want to say anything. That ...

Yes. That’s my observation about a real corporate situation in Taiwan. I think most of them, lack of the connection, because people all focus on theirselves. Because of my sister, she’s working for a TIIP as well, this year, she held several open house event. We invited them to have ...

Yes. Actually, she mentioned to me several times, emphasize, network is very, very important. Future...

What really, really surprised me for Parveen, the Future 50 program, actually they didn’t provide any real resources like co-working space, money...

For my job, for the mission of TIIP, we are helping the Taiwanese corporate to upgrade, to upscale, so that innovation is very important. If the innovation only occur internal, actually I don’t think something would happen. It might be minus. They need to do a lot of connection and ...

As I have told you, I have the three program. Now the three program work very separately. I think I maybe use this endpoint as the corporate innovation. As Stephan just read briefly, talking about the corporate innovation and ecosystem now is totally separate.

That is my major charge right now. I think that, based on my previously experience, I’m very looking forward to having the cooperation relationship with Stephan. During this week, we’ll still have some discussion, because I need to briefly...

Actually, I just work with the bank people last year. This year, we have the company in French side and in Taiwan side to joint apply for us. We are just a R&D subsidy program. French company likely earn the loan from Bpifrance. This year, it just happened.

I think that Taiwan might be a very good choices for them. During my TIIP program, I just have a very close cooperation relationship with the French part. As you know, there is the ICC bilateral between the French government, DGE, and IDB.

Of course, for me, I will persuade a lot of them to visit you, but I think you need to witness yourselves. I tell Stephan that we are very good in manufacturing. Now, the world trends go to IoT smart machine. It must apply the hardware manufacturing and for the ...

I think probably we need some assistance from the scaling up part. I’m just talking to Stephan. I’m very appreciate about support from my director and the officials of SMEA. They support it. I just try to invite them to come to visit us. I think before we have a ...

I just thinking about, "Oh, are you interested to have a Future 50 in Taiwan?" We have the start-up ecosystem, like a dedicated goal, but actually we, from my point of view, still see there’s some problem just for the scaling up. Everyone’s still in the very early stage. "I ...

Now it’s 2018, but how many unicorns they created? Of course, a unicorn, for me, now is a term for the very good international investment and very good performance of economic growth. During the dialogue between Stephan and me, he is talking about it probably the technician would have the ...

I’m very happy that Stephan have 90 minutes to talk to me. I just asking him about unicorn program. Of course, he said Future 50, which is led by Parveen, is the most successful unicorn producer in the world. You see, actually for the Future 50, just launched in 2000...

Finally, I just see the CEO, Grech, stand up, "I appreciate your opinion and feedback, but everybody, I need to tell you, UK need unicorn. That’s why I bring us so much about the international investment and why we have the job opportunity and very prosperous, because the unicorn bring ...

After the five very short presentation, they have two launch forum. The first topic is, "Does the UK really need a unicorn?" They invited three companies, of course, unicorn company and a very early-stage company. The very early-stage company, of course, they lack resources. They say, "I think UK has ...

Yeah, so I just want to mention something very important is our visa scheme. Before, we are looking for the patent, to have the IPO. Now we are looking for something more professional for the price of the technology. Especially I’m focused on the group in the Silicon Valley. Valley ...

I saw the CEO of Tech Nation, Grech. The presentation is very short, about five minutes. The CEO just say everybody know about Tech City, because they around about 10 years. Only one...

I think there’s a very good chance to see, because a program change their name, change their focus and broaden, that means they must have some very successful experiences as their base. What I want to do next that really interests me, firstly, I just traveled to Edinburgh to listen ...

When I really, really went to UK, the timing’s very interesting. I visited the UK about June. Actually, in the beginning of this year, they were still Tech City, but in the beginning of May, they upgrade. [laughs] They change to Tech Nation.

Why I go to UK, because the I choose the Tech City as their benchmark. I just read some information about their growth program. Previously, I just chose probably the Upscale is very suitable for me because of the master mentor part.

They have a very close relationship with my director. My director, she worked with this program for 25 years, so she has very deep relationship with the C-suite level of the big corporate. That’s why we would like to be with the national network.

The main program, they like to be with the forum and put a lot of resources on it to help the start-up and SMEs in the very early stage because of lack of resources. I’m responsible for building the national mentor. Where is my mentor? Of course, it’s my TIIP ...

I take part in that [laughs] program, as well. I have three programs I’m charged. What I go to the UK, because for the SMEA ecosystem innovation part led by the doctor say I have a program cooperated with the III, the operator of Social Innovation Lab.

Yes. Apart from my major TIIP program, now I have the chance to take part in the SMEA part, especially for the start-up ecosystem. The other part is for the township revitalization. I think you must have heard about it?

That’s the ones I work with, the IDB now. Now I just re-work with them in SMEA. Of course, because, at the SMEA, they have their own mission.

For this program, we just helping a lot of hardware manufacturing enterprises or corporate in Taiwan achieve very successful achievement. This year, because some director generalswitched posts, officials just shifted from IDB to SMEA.

Let me share about why I brought them here. Actually, I come from the SMECF. Last year, I just worked for the III. My major responsibility is take charge of the large-scale R&D subsidy program of IDB. We call it TIIP. Previously, it’s a leading technology product program. In total, ...

Thank you very much.

Yes, a very good ideal. We can think about it. [laughs]

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Yes, yesterday morning and yesterday afternoon.

TTA, and Startup Terrace, as well.

Probably we need Stephan to bring a little bit about Tech Nation and Parveen to draw special attention on the growth program. Parveen is the team lead of the growth program in the Tech Nation part.

I asked them to give some information about Tech Nation program, because it’s a national program for the start-up ecosystem in UK. They have achieved very great success during the past nearly a decade.