Maybe, it reminds me of Dewey’s pluralism. Dewey said that democracy needs everyone to become a specialist and we need to connect that, so I think we must revive his idea into our lives maybe. Thank you so much.

First of all, thank you so much for your very fruitful conversation. I could learn a lot from this fruitful conversation. Actually, I was impressed by two points especially. The first point is the mille-feuille-like society. Some of my colleagues told me that society becomes a mille-feuille style and I ...

Just briefly. It impressed me that there is a layer. Every time, you mentioned layers and time span. That is the basic structure of your governance system in your image. We must share it because the last time we wrote the report – at least me – I did not ...

Yes. Good. Thank you.

So, we need a good interface to connect people. That is our first step. Actually, our society is diseased by many sectionalrism in companies, bureaucrats, and some other sectors of society. It is very fragmented now I think, so I think we should use technologies and a good interface to ...

Yes, actually I am very impressed with the former conversation with yourself and Prof. Shishido. It seems to me very impressive because, actually, we do not synchronize law and technology itself. All we can do is collaborate with people.

Yes, thank you.

Okay. This is great. So, maybe we need a good interface of democracy for adapting goals for all elderly. That is very good.

From your point of view, what is your idea in regards to this problem?? It is very challenging for us to make the elderly more concerned about the future.

It is a very interesting idea. I am afraid that actually in Japan, as you know, the population is very aged and maybe there is a kind of division between older persons and younger persons, and the elderly population is bigger than the younger population, and so it is very ...