Okay. Then I’ll need to know and you will get the invitation.

Yeah, Sitra.

But they say that it’s the vibes. You can check online what they are offering, but it’s a great experience. And, of course, to see, Finland is a front runner in technology in many ways, but I think that we have a lot to learn from you. But maybe there ...

But anyway, welcome to Finland. It’s in November.

And actually, they have been able to get our investors from… When they, these students, when they started it, they took like a private plane and brought from Silicon Valley investors to Helsinki and now it’s really established and big and those young kids who have been running it, actually ...

But I was in Armenia a year ago and they had a hackathon event there and they were giving us a first prize, a ticket to come to see the startup event. I know that minister is very busy, but it would be great if you had a possibility to ...

And in Finland, we have the biggest startup event in Europe called Slush, which is in November. And it’s super big nowadays. It started by the University of Technology in Espoo. There are students started, but now it’s already that over a thousand investors are coming all over the world ...

Can I use this opportunity to invite you to Finland? Greetings from our minister, Mrs. Lulu Ranne, who is now in the government taking care of the digital issues.

But it would be interesting to hear that what kind of ideas you have on the on the citizen level of the security issues.

Because in a way, I think that’s something that you cannot regulate people to do. Of course, you can but then it’s a challenge but to create awareness that how important it is for me when I’m part of the digital society that the devices I used are protected. And ...

And so, for example, we have had some kind of… it’s not a regulation, it’s just agreement that all those who import computers that they install security program and it’s free for the consumer for six months or something like that. And once a year, every year at the same ...

It’s amazing what you’re doing. Just one more thing before I… You were already discussing about cybersecurity and we know that in the business level and administrative level, it’s a big threat and challenge. But in Finland, we have had already over 10 years this kind of awareness day, because ...

But how do you have this kind of cross border cooperation? And do you have open data administration and is the data available for businesses? Like if I get an idea that for my new kind of innovation business idea, I can somehow reach out for the data that’s needed ...

And so, it was a hassle because the ministries felt that they are losing money and how do I… It would be a budget deficit. And so, but nowadays the situation is better.

But we had the problem that all the ministries, they used to get money by selling some of the data from businesses. And then, when we started this open data program that we wanted to have more viability, more possibilities for businesses doing new kind of innovations based on the ...

That’s very good and very interesting. What about the… What’s the… It’s been some years since I was the minister, but still, the big data is very… It’s a big pressure for companies and of course for public service as a base for services.

So, do you have this kind of national… And how do you actually… For the people, how do they access it? Do you have their identifications so they can have access to their data?

But now, everything is on the same file or database and it makes more secure healthcare, because the previous what you have had the appointments with the doctors and the doctors see and especially those who go off and have a lot of medication. Then, this way, you can prevent ...

But the bigger issue is that we have just launched a couple years ago the so-called National Health Record where when I go to a doctor, whether I go in my hometown or in Helsinki or wherever, my data has to be there. And then, of course, the doctors can ...

So, of course, every country is different and it would be interesting to hear in Finland, we have a big social and health reform going on and we have a minister who is responsible for legislation and somehow tutoring or controlling the local regions. But still, the regions have the ...

I always saw my role as an enabler the government role is to make the environment that kind that for example, smart cities can do their things and there is no regulation being obstacle for that or…

Yeah. First of all, it’s a big honor to meet you and I have also been in Taipei before, almost 20 years ago. And it’s interesting to see the development. It was very advanced that time with the technology, but now when I listened to you, it’s just amazing what ...