Thank you.

Very good.

Eventually, but to do it in real time, or within 72 hours, as you say, that could be quite difficult.

Eventually.

It is, on the question of source of funding for political advertisements. That can be much harder to trace, can’t it...?

It seems to me you thought of a way around that.

Before I heard you explain this, my initial reaction is how do you avoid the trap of censorship or governments deciding what is truth or not truth.

All right. These are the main questions I had. This is very interesting, and I’m really intrigued by what you’re trying here.

How do you assess that? Some people will say, "Well, people don’t necessarily value the freedom of speech." I have no way of knowing if that’s true.

A number of people have said to us, talking about Taiwan’s democracy being relatively young, it’s been 30 years, and yet this is quite an innovative system. I’m wondering what your own assessment is about the depth of the democratic values among the population. You mentioned once the revoltion against ...

Iris, do you have a question you want to add?

Singapore, Malaysia, the law is still on the books.

It’s very interesting. As you mentioned, many other governments in the region are taking quite a different path of...

Eventually, the courts will have the jurisdiction to decide whether it’s intentional, and intentional and harmful.

That’s quite interesting. Where has the inspiration for this approach come from? You’ve mentioned France. Are there other inspirations that have come? Obviously, you have some domestic ones also.

For the election time.

What’s the standard deployed here? Is it accuracy? Is it fairness? Is it balance?

One of the...it’s not a criticism so much as a critique of the NCC, is that the fines against the broadcasting companies are quite small compared to their revenue size and therefore don’t present much of a deterrent.

How serious has been the problem of disinformation?

What’s been the experience so far in producing these messages in terms of...How’s it going? Have there been mistakes made? Obviously, there have been mistakes made. [laughs]

When governments are putting out this kind of... Governments put out information all the time. Is there any potential down the road for abuse of this system, when governments have this capability of creating messages and trying to make them go viral very quickly?

Akin to what?

I would think so. I would think it would be very difficult to train people to respond in that kind of time frame.

How did they respond?

I lived here, by the way, under martial law.

Could you talk about that a little bit?

In your recent visit to the United States, you did mention about measures to try to counteract disinformation.

Without the technology.

China is the opposite, in terms of the openness of the media. What we’re trying to figure out is how can Taiwan maintain that freedom of the press and the openness in the face of an adversary that is using many different means to try to influence you.

My question here is Taiwan has a very open society and freedom of the press, which is one of the reasons we don’t come here very often, frankly, because we don’t have to worry about it too much. At the same time, China is making an effort to influence public ...

Yes, Australia, New Zealand. Some in Africa. Even Canada and the United States.

We don’t think we have a lot of influence -- we publish statements and criticize them -- but we’re very concerned about what China is trying to do to influence beyond its borders. We’re looking at Hong Kong and Taiwan, and eventually we wanted to look at other jurisdictions, as ...

Let me explain a little bit the project. Actually, Iris is the one who does research on what happens in China with journalists.

Let me get this going.

Yes, that’s fine. Just to let you know, we’ll often record and make a transcript, and then what we do is we take excerpts and make it into kind of a question-and-answer session. It might not match exactly. We edit it.