Yeah, all right.

I used up your time but it was great. We will look into these. I like these small groups that are creating their own identities. Thank you for sharing. Bottom up, this is really, really cool. Thank you so much. It was great to see you again.

I translated it for my friends in the US.

Yeah, I’ve shared it with…Did you see this picture? You’ve seen this one, right?

I got to show her this picture.

It’s so embarrassing, seriously.

Be careful.

It’s unbelievable. What sort of things are top of mind for you in 2021, maybe around connecting people, social things, and government? Is there anything that you could share? What’s going to be exciting, you think?

I guess it’s rare that you can have beautiful ocean and beautiful mountains, and you can see it right there, both. You have the mountains behind you and the ocean in front of you.

The most beautiful part of Taiwan, if it just wasn’t so far to get. I would be there all the time. It’s such a great place.

I love Taitung.

I like this. I need to get this V thing?

But the idea is perfect. It’s exactly…

That would be so cool.

I think we can work with that. Help with that.

How are they doing this? Are these NFTs, or are these credentials that are getting attached? Are they blockchain-based? Are they just signatures? What is this?

This is really fun. I think people would like this.

That’s where the waves are.

I want that. Taitung is…

I love that. That’s so cool.

…could be ocean.

Outer space, maybe?

I guess not, yeah.

What is OC?

What’s the response from the people? People like it?

TT push?

That’s really cool. There’s a whole lot bunch of these things.

Is there anything credentialing in the social sector that you’ve found interesting?

It’s super hard for me because, like VC and then Miami, I’ve been dealing with VCs for the last five years, and I’m just like, “These cannot be verifiable connections.”

How about VCs? Verified Credentials?

We have focus on this then. This is really interesting.

Explain what you mean, social sector?

Oh, really?

I’m wondering. Are there any interesting opportunities here, well, she’ll ask you about Bitcoin, but that’s probably more difficult, but around DIDs or around VCs?

Christopher Allen and Joe, they were the ones that worked on the W3C’s DID standard. This is all public now. I can share it. They’re working with DHS in the US. DHS is wanting to use these verifiable credentials. They want to use DIDs because they don’t want a situation ...

The people we built this with is Blockchain Commons, I think you know Christopher Allen.

It is fast compared to banks.

The Bitcoin network.

Then the node itself, we’re not quite there yet but when we launch it soon, the node will be using Tor. It’s super-good security privacy, but the main thing is it’s easy to use.

We’ve basically taken the full power of a full node and all of the things that make it hard for everyday people to use like Bitcoin addresses, things like that, we’ve done it. All the messaging, I sent her a note that uses Signal’s protocol.

I’ll show you really quick. It has a phone book. Vivian, I can pay her. This uses the W3C DIDs. I want to ask questions about that in a second.

The longer-term vision of this is that not just your money and your identity but you have all the personal data as well under your own full node that’s controllable. The architecture we have is everything is multi-sig. Any transaction that happens, your node and your phone are both signing.

Hopefully not personally aware of it. [laughs]

People really have trouble with private keys, even bitcoiners. There was a “New York Times” article this morning about how they keep coming up every time the price goes up.

Right.

The vision of this is that we’re going to go with Bitcoin, which is per kilobyte the most expensive data, probably, most valuable data per kilobyte, maybe.

There’s an app on the phone, your own node in the cloud. We have a P2P contact list that uses DIDs, and then a backup system that uses a social key recovery. If I lose my phone, friends can help look up. The longer vision of this wallet, the name ...

In the cloud.

It’s a full node crypto wallet. It’s really three things all in one. We give you your own full node so you’re like a true peer in the network.

I’ll just show you. It’s always easy to just show your stuff. We’re making a Bitcoin wallet.