The big wall.
When did that wall come down?
I like this.
Good. This is my first time here.
Really appreciate it.
Thanks again for everything.
This is Scott. It’s so funny.
He’s like, “Get out of bed. It’s going to be gone by 7:00 if you don’t go.” [laughs]
It was the most amazing. I am like…My friend, he says, “We’re going to go get beef soup for breakfast.” I’m like, “For breakfast? Seriously?” It was 6:00 AM.
It’s so good.
I had Niurou Tang for breakfast. It’s like heaven. It was unbelievable.
The best food.
Tainan is the best weather.
Good, we still have time.
When is this?
Are there other efforts like this that I should be aware of here in Taiwan, or is this the main you think that’s really…?
Is there an English version of this?
Can you share a little bit about the history of g0v? I read it through a Westerners lens, but I’m curious what is it doing now? How did it come about?
That’s what I’ve got to do.
Theory U it’s called?
There’s three people that work for Peter Schwabe, one of our advisors, in Amsterdam. They’re postdocs. They happened to be stuck at Academic Sinica, and now they’re stuck for a year.
I’ll look at your transcripts, then find people, and then…
Are you aware of any other likeminded efforts or people in Taiwan that we can connect with, that we can try some of these ideas?
We have both been involved with RadicalxChange and looking for tools besides private property, capitalism, what comes next. This Daniel Schmachtenberger guy has all of these fascinating ideas around non-rivalrous stuff.
This guy, Daniel Schmachtenberger, I’ve never heard of him before. Casey found the podcast, “The Portal,” the podcast that I’m a big fan of. This guy is super, super interesting.
This is plan B questions.
I have another set of questions, but those are all the…
Joel? Sean. This is Casey.
Yeah, this is so cool.
It’s really bad. It’s falling apart.
Because the US really needs different software. The hardware’s OK, people are still good, but you have to reload the software.
We want to export software.
This is so good. Those are all my questions related to autonomy, navigating how to connect US and Taiwan. Do you have any other things that are on your mind about that?
Yes. How should we think of, say, academia or hospitals? NTU, either as a hospital or as a university, versus Sinica? How does the government look at these in terms of public health?
That’s great. The new dean, Michael Lu is his name. He’s Taiwanese. The School of Public Health. There’s such roots between Berkeley and…
The US right now is riots and rockets. It’s complete chaos. We’re trying to export some of the good stuff that Taiwan did over there.
Perfect, because so many people are looking to the public health people to figure out how to open things up, but then the public health people are like, “We don’t have the data to open it up.”
We do now, yes. She would be good to help navigate this one?
How would you go about doing that?
Academia Sinica, right?
If we wanted to connect US and Taiwan…we can be even more specific. Let’s say Berkeley and…
This is awesome. This is really, really good.
Focus on the prevention, right?