Thank you for your time.

Thank you so much.

Thank you. If you have any other advice or anything, or think of something, something comes up in the future, please send me an email. Something that can get me started, OK?

Great. I’ll look into that. Thank you for listening.

What’s your advice on how can I make these things a reality for Taiwan?

That would be good. For some of our teachers overseas, that would be good. Sometimes we have some teachers that work overseas, and maybe their audio connection will be important.

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That was a lot of fun. However, what I found trouble with is when adults and students getting them to turn on their camera. Oh my god, it’s such a fight. They’re like, “Oh, my room is messy. Oh, I didn’t put on make-up.”

Talking to each other in English won’t be an awkward situation. It would just be like, “Oh, quickly, we have to do this. We have to do this.”

I was like, “I don’t want to burden parents with buying this device. I’d have to wait for them to buy in order for me to be able to make something from it.” By doing something like this, we can have four or five kids that are learning together, talking ...

For group classes, yeah. That’s great. Part of that – you mentioned that group class – that was what I was struggling with when I was doing VR. When I was doing AR, I always have to have a phone in my hand. I don’t want the device in my ...

Even just playing video games or whatever, as long as they’re experiencing an English world, English environment and then, as they go in for their class, this is their classroom. We can do all sorts of great stuff with that. This is the other part, the learning room that I’m ...

I can create a room like this so we can have parents bring their kids and play, either outside play, interact with foreigners, like that student said, “The first time I talked to foreigner.” No, just go around, talk, read. There’s a reading corner, different places that that they can ...

That’s exactly what I’m hoping to do. The nice thing about…What I think that we have raised, because I have these years of lesson plans already and I have this IT background, I want to merge that into just one thing.

The words pop up around them like in one word, it says sleeping, and the first kid to go touch the word sleeping wins. You got it correct. We can do lots of great learning modules.

They’re not just sitting there looking straight at their teacher. They’re experiencing a whole new world. We have interactive experiences. Because they’re touchscreen panels, we’ll be able to do games like, “What is the bear doing?”

I separate it into three different parts. The first part is situational experiences where we can create almost like an escape room. We can transport them to rain forests, deserts, and anywhere we want really. We can create reading experiences for them. We can have the text on screen. That ...

They’re kids, there’s a group four to six of them. They walk in there, and they’re touching. They’re seeing. Maybe I can put them in a subway, and they can walk around. They can touch the stool. This is the chair. This is the train. This is the train conductor. ...

It’s the space that the kids walk in, and we have different learning modules for them. Outside, when they go in, “What’s our lesson plan today?” “Today, we’re going to talk about transportation.” They go inside the learning room, and they talk, and you have a 25-minute lesson on transportation. ...

I’ve been to a museum. In the museum, I saw this wall. This wall is a touchscreen wall where they go around and they move the pictures around. It’s fun. It’s cool. It’s a nice demo, but that has potential. What I want to do is I want to develop ...

Exactly. I want to create a sensor that has all these things in it for them to experience English, for them to connect to teachers all over the world, and connect to students all over the world. Most importantly, they have this thing called the learning room.

What I’m most interested in, even we created some virtual characters where the students, young people are having online classes with us. They don’t see me. They see this avatar.

We’ve been working – me and some friends that own a tech company – we’ve been toying around with that, seeing how we can involve English and not just exercising. We have all these cool demos and stuff.

It’s completely all-English environment. There’s no Chinese in this environment. It is for them to experience English in sights, and sounds, and touches, and everything. I also played around with a magic mirror, which is Johnson, the exercise company. They have this mirror that can scan you, and you can ...

What I came up with was something called the learning room. Basically, the learning room is a learning environment for younger kids to do. On the outside, you have this sensory experience. You have like a museum, like a library. It’s all these places where they can run around and ...

Ting is stationary. Me, you, and Ting, we’re all on stationary. We’re sitting down looking at a screen.

He has the air pods and he has the background, but Ting is stationary.

I’m like, “All right, what can I do? How can I transport these kids? Now, I’m talking to younger age. I’m talking maybe 4 to 12 years old. How can I transport them to another world?” I toyed around with AR and VR. But I hit wall, after wall, after ...

They made a TED talk about it, where it’s giving kindergarteners this giant environment to play with, to learn, and to erase borders from them. I liked that. I was like, “Oh, man, I would love to be a part of that.” That exists in Japan. That doesn’t exist in ...

Then I’ll move onto the second portion, the tech portion. This one’s a little bit more ambitious. I got started with this idea by copying a Japanese kindergarten basically. There’s this Japanese kindergarten that has this like tree in the middle of it.

I just want to be able to give that but at a younger age, get them started much younger with that.

I’m like, “Why do you come to me? You don’t need me. You’re not going to get just English from me. I have you for a couple weeks out of the year. I need to give you the tools so you can develop and learn on your own so your ...

Exactly, exactly. That’s always been a goal of mine when I meet adults. I meet adults that are in their 30s, 40s. They’ve been studying English for years.

Yeah. I’m basically the test, or our teachers are basically the test, where it’s like, “You can cheat. You can copy. You can memorize answer on an exam, but face to face with me, it’s a little bit more difficult.”

This semester, we can be in Northern, then Central, then Southern eventually, and I have teachers in Kaohsiung, and then Hsinchu, in Taichung also that I’ve trained to do this. I did have a…

It’s us, plural. I’m fortunate enough to have instilled this mentality in all my teachers in my company, so they’ll assist me with it. It won’t be one month. It won’t be six weeks out of the year. It will be spread out, maybe the first half of the year.

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Just like someone picked me out for scholarship years ago, I’ll be able to find out who are the key talent for Taiwan, and what resources do they need to be prepared? That’s this program that I’m thinking of.

Since we will go and we’ll meet every high school student in Taiwan eventually – I think in the beginning, maybe just start with some pilot, a couple of schools – but eventually, my goal in five years is to be able to literally go to every high school, talk ...

I was able to start this business with nothing here in Taiwan. Taiwan gave me a lot of opportunity. There is opportunity for them in Taiwan if you want it. That’s what I want to do. I want to basically prepare them so they can be competitive, either in Taiwan ...

Right now, it’s 2020. They’re in high school. By the time 2030 comes around, they’re going to be in their first job. They’re going to be applying for jobs. They’re going to be looking at their first promotion. They’re going to be thinking about this stuff. I want them to ...

Most importantly, what I want to do is I want to plant the seed in their head, just like I did with these students here. I want to plant a seed in their head saying, “OK, for the next nine years, there’s hope.”

[laughs] Thank you. Thank you for looking at it. Finally, at the very end, they get that face-to-face interview with us. What they’ll get is they’ll get individual reports. Every student will get an individual report about their skills and recommendations that they need. They’ll get support through the website.

All of these lessons, once a week, they’ll have online help with that that they can log into our website and have extra videos, extra help, extra assistance. We have that all on our website already that we do for adults, but that’s…

This would just be six weeks. During these six weeks, we’ll have modules where every week, they’ll have something and they’ll create their CV. They’ll create their personal essay. They’ll peer-review it so they can all help and assist each other. In the last week, they’ll do interview practice.

Now, keep in mind I’m not taking them away from their school system or anything.

Before the program starts, we would go, and we’d meet with their English teachers in their local schools and help them out, give them our lesson plans, give them information, access to our modules, and everything. The students would get a YouTube video of what’s expected to them in this ...

What I want them to do is I want them to be able to sell themselves, talk about themselves a little bit more. It’s a six-week program. At the beginning, it starts with training the teachers, giving the teachers some support.

I can give them some advice and some help on how to do that. I call this program Who Am I? The reason I say this is because I have students when I meet with them, and I’ve been teaching them one on one for six months, eight months. When ...

Basically, what I want to do is I want to go and sit, give every Taiwanese high school student the experience of interviewing for a university. This is preparing their essay, preparing a CV, and a one-on-one interview with me where I can give them some feedback. What are your ...