其實我要講的跟代表很像，但我要講的是說，不管這些人是用新增項目，事實上排擠了，當初協商就是覺得有多少新增項目，有這個想法才編這個預算，現在插了一個未來有新增項目不好意思沒有錢了，這是一定的道理，我覺得國發會既然有這個平台，這麼便民、這麼好的用意，很簡單，每年我們低推估跟高推估都是國發會在協商，那你就編一個特別的預算或專款，這樣也免得跟健保會沒關係，那是我們政府另外編預算出來，否則沒有帶錢，不然每次來都說要怎麼做，我覺得這是非常不合理的，今天有全部實錄，還是要把這段講完。

像復健科，一開始居家部分都是秒殺，將來有給付的話，每個醫院都眼睛睜睜什麼時候可以報名認證，因為他需要筆試，他不是網路認定，他要筆試，既然要有筆試一定要參加某個地方考試，這東西裡面在過去經驗都是非常可怕，尤其偏遠地區比如在屏東台東他能不能去那個地方考試，沒有的話就拿不到認證，如果要這樣做，學會要承諾一些事情，多少時間辦多少場，或是具備ICU裡面長期營養師資格，我們怎麼樣做處理，否則單純認證兩個字，他所代表後面其實是後患無窮，那費用對學會來說，一筆五百塊錢就可以了，幾百人耶，都是增加很多人負擔，一千人，這來講其實是不太公平的。

其實剛有提到認證的部分我們很實務，只要一個認證就要考試上課，辦理一兩個班全部上去，因為全國現在有一萬個營養師，以現在各醫院ICU至少都好幾百人以上，那佔用多少時間可以認證完？如果一個月半一場，年底會不會辦完我都很懷疑。第二個，誰來認證誰，你說學會有理監事，比較有能力看別人的能力嗎？是由誰來決定認證，這是要考是的，看1-21必須要筆試還有實名相關資料，那誰考誰？第三個其實已經很多ICU在很久時間，這些人都沒做其他處理，你還要重新考，這可能就像理事長在ICU裡面十年、二十年，這些人都沒做其他處置，我剛擔心的事說，現在已經是七月底，如果按照一個月辦三場，一場可能要兩三百人，不然到年底，我們常遇到這個情形。

如同委員提到的，因為這是國發會平台，我們每年再看低推估高推估，不都是國發會的嗎?所以今年假設即使同意但沒有錢，請明年國發會再來談低推估高推估另外編專款給我們，這個錢才有著落啊，我們108去年就協商根本沒有這個錢，大家也沒有想到，一定會有一個排擠效應，真的是建議這些細節裡，是不是今年暫時不討論，等到明年既然是國發會平台，將來提專款給我們，那我們就知道要用什麼角度看這個案子。以上。

Thank you so much.

Along with that, because it sounds to us a very long working day, if you’re working till 12, is work and the rest of your life separate or is it all rolled in as one?

Thank you.

It’s a bit far off.

A little esoteric but what might you be doing in five years time?

Do you like being a minister? You think your freedom is more restricted. Or did you like it before?

From your time of being a hacker, can you share something interesting? How was it? Do you miss that now? Do you miss doing it now?

Sorry, you have another 10 minutes, right? We’re taking up a long time.

Sorry, it’s a multi-question really. With that, were you worried when you were invited into the cabinet that you could be seen almost as a sort of puppet, rolled out there as a kind of cool anarchist mascot, but there is no real stuff going on. Does that make sense?

Can I ask, how much success do you think you’ve achieved so far in the role? From the sounds of it, it sounds as though your ideas have gone down quite well. How have they gone down with your fellow ministers? Were they kind of open to it?

Can you describe a normal day for you here?

Can you state the readiness between the manufacturers? Taiwan is home to the Foxconn and the Quanta computers. Now, with the shift to the software side, how does that pan out? What’s their state of readiness? Are you in interaction with them on this?

Of all the technologies that you see or may see coming down the line, what is the next multi-generational technology that you feel will hit and will bring everyone together once again, but in a bigger scale?

Putting on your innovator hat for a second, your futurist-looking hat, you mentioned Pokémon GO. That’s been one of the most amazing innovations in the last fall, because literally it got people outside doing things together of all ages.

We have, for example, more attacks on hackers or a lack of privacy in data, and increasing use of keys or passwords, which are more letters, capitals, and capitals, number, whatever things. What the deal with all this stuff with the real Internet?

You talk about the Internet is based on confidence, but at the same time, we’re having an increased problem with security.

Do we have some information how much start-ups is created each year and how much will not survive for one year?

Don’t be sorry.

But also, fake news, misunderstandings, or maybe discriminatory expressions can be easily spread. What should we do to make the correct progress for better communication?

I want to ask you about the relation between the IT, the information technologies, and the communications. IT made communication easy and free. We can connect each to other beyond the borders, or race, or generation because of SMS and so on.

The thing is, for this solution, it’s with you. It’s with the civilians. Where is the solution between this war, this game between industries and politics?

"No, it’s your fault. It’s your fault."

IoT digital inclusion technology, they are not reaching everybody. In a culture like Brazil, too big, too huge. They are not reaching everybody. Yesterday, Mr. Vikram Pickard said that there’s a ping pong between the industry and the politics. "Oh, it’s your fault."

I would like to go in more ground level. Now we have hundreds of Taiwanese companies working in China, probably you’re going to see more in China than in Taiwan. How do you see the future of this interaction?

Since you are a without-portfolio minister, I’d like to talk about China. We were talking to some people, your colleagues earlier, and we have seen that, economically speaking, Taiwan and China, they are very much integrated. 40 percent of your trade is with China, and one million Taiwanese in China. ...

Is there any message that you have for these youngsters out there? Something on the positive side as to what they can do, how they can bring in new and innovative changes?

We have a population out there, a young population. Especially in the part where I come from, the Middle East, we have a young population so full of energy and vigor but in a destructive mode. Is there any message that you have to these youth out there? There are ...

Can I ask one more, please? I would just want to mix up a few things, bringing on what you said. You touched upon interacting with your grandparents. You spoke about your view on the LGBT and the Pokémon GO. You even said you’re a school dropout. All these things ...

How do you compete the increasing influence over countries, as Korea, Japan, or China, in digital technologies? Where do you see advantages over Taiwan? Do you have some plan of cooperation, maybe with the government, to build from Eastern Asia more super power in digital technologies?

I have a question. There is an issue, very important in the world right now, the elder people, how they can be included in this digital transformation. How do they accept it and have the tools to do that?

Thank you.

How have the teachers, as a profession, accepted the new policy or the new way of thinking?

In terms of speaking about all these goals, about a shift from the hardware to the software production, as well as digitalization, is there any concrete reflection in the educational system already?

Concerning ASEAN countries, specific Western Indian, how far is the digital integration with Southeast Asia? Particularly, in Malaysia where I come from, Penang is known as the Silicon Valley of the East. I just want to know how is that situation, as you transform from hardware to software.

I’ve asked a question already, so I hope that’s OK. I wondered, were you surprised when you were invited to be a minister? Do you think someone could do your role if they hadn’t have left the country and gone and experienced life by Silicon Valley or somewhere else altogether?

I know there is Taiwan accelerator that was launched last year. There was been some reports actually criticizing the slow progress of Taiwan’s economy on international records. How fierce is the competition across the strait mainly? In terms of entrepreneurs, to what degree you’re actually relying on them in the ...

In this journey moving from the hardware industry into the digital age and digital applications, how is Taiwan going ahead in this regard? Will it cause, in particular, to the entrepreneurial system by support of entrepreneurs?

Very interesting.

Sure, do you have counterparts?

Are there any other of your type in the world that are doing this in a digital perspective, any other countries? Who would you talk to for any advice? You seem to be doing a lot [laughs] of unique things in this whole sphere. Any other countries you might lean ...

Do you think that the work you do fits in every country or just in Taiwan? I think not just Taiwan, but do you think about the work you do fits in other countries, like Brazil for example?

Minister, hello. Can you tell more about this project of Silicon Valley, Asia, and Taiwan?

Digital Minister, I’m from India. India has a massive digital transformation program, which is under implementation. In that context, how Taiwan is looking at the market, is there anything that Taiwan is looking at to tap into the Indian market?

That’s right.

Social media usage is wide, and people are on tweets and public platforms. How do you see those challenges, every citizen taking up the machinery in their hand? How do you address that? Do you have a plan or do you find that as a challenge?

Thank you very much. It was interesting, getting across how civil servant face, and the challenges. How do you see, from the other side in this table. This is a time when everybody is a journalist, right?