Oh, I love this. I think I might… not steal this word, I might learn from this and apply this to our own organization. Thank you, thank you for sharing. I really enjoyed that.

And bring in all different industry leaders from around the world to come share with Taiwan leaders as well. That would be interesting. I love what you’re doing. I mean, this is so different from all the other agencies we talked to. I mean, I think you’re very successful. But ...

That makes me want to… I’m thinking very ambitious now. Would it be something, maybe we can work with NDC on this, like host a 2040 Taiwan Vision event?

We are very supportive of DIA, let’s make it work. But, okay, well, in the last few minutes, I wanted to see if, you know, see if there’s anything you want to talk about for us, and any advice you have for me.

Wow.

Actually, so not only this, but if there are interesting speakers from the US or other places that you think we should try to bring to Taiwan overall, not for this event, for anything, please think of us as a platform to try to invite that person to Taiwan.

If you have a name in mind, we can try to push that for you as well.

That you want to share the stage with or have complementing view…

I was going to say if you know someone who we should be inviting, then let us know as well.

AI bias, you mean?

I think the gold card is maybe the main issue. And the second part maybe Minister can talk about the AI and the influence on job opportunities.

Not only Taiwan.

I think those stories would be very compelling to all of us because your journey is so special.

But if I may, I think, Mr. Tang, your story is so compelling. And I think it’s up to you what you, as you mentioned, what you want to talk about. The journeys that the unconscious bias maybe you face, the challenges you face, how did you navigate, what things ...

We’ve got to make it on the 18th then.

He’s one of our unofficial ambassadors. I love it. Before I, I have lots of things I want to talk about. I want to let Amy talk for a little bit. She’s doing a very important initiative that we’re promoting around DEIA.

He’s great. I’m glad he’s, well, I’m glad there’s so many people so passionate about Taiwan.

Oh, that’s great. I met him at the NDC meeting, right? He was the gentleman with the beard.

We’ll reach out to our publications team.

Okay. How can we help publicize this? Can we interview you? Can we meet other people?

We’d love to hear your thoughts about what are the certain challenges, if any, that you face in creating this equal playground right now.

Oh, that’s fantastic. Thank you. And one of the areas that I think our members are always very concerned about is creating even playground for foreign companies when they come to operate in Taiwan. But I also believe that it’s important that Taiwan create a fair playground for our own ...

Furthermore, I think it would be great if we could invite yourself or any members of your team to have regular touchpoints with our members. We would be glad to host closed-door sessions or more public transparent events as well, whatever is best for you. But also, I think that ...

Fantastic. Thank you for that. One of the things, well, I think, Minister Tang, you have so much connections everywhere. But one of the things I wanted to offer is us as a bridge, if… how do I say this? If it’s useful to have AmCham mention things to, for ...

That’s great. One of the issues our members face so, we have 26 committees covering different things, from like health care to defense to other areas, right? So, 26 industries. And when they interact with their government agencies, they’re the ones that are most concerned with. A lot of times, ...

You said free. I didn’t say free.

Okay, good to know. I don’t want to mention any other agencies here, but there are other agencies that struggle with this and they’re looking for solutions. And I’ll kindly mention that you guys are doing a fantastic job. And you guys have a consultation service.

Would you mind if we advertise this to other agencies we talk to?

Okay. That’s fantastic. How do we make sure others know what you’re doing?

This is really interesting, because this touches upon another issue that we’ve been addressing with not this ministry, but other ministries, about the bilingual issue for Taiwan. So, actually, you found a solution that could scale across all the governments.

That’s fantastic.

Thank you for that. Okay, I guess part of… pardon my ignorance. I feel like I need to learn so much from all of you. And I think one of the things I would love to hear more insights about, you know, what are the key issues that you think ...

So, as well as other areas, any area that you’re thinking about in digital reform, especially harmonizing across different agencies. Because I believe right now, I’m not an expert in this, but different agencies are looking at it in different ways. And so, I know this is very hard. And ...

Okay. Wow. My information wasn’t updated. Okay. So, I think this area, our members are very concerned about how… not only how they operate in Taiwan, but are there best practices that they can learn from Taiwan and also bring to Taiwan.

Wow.

Great. Well, thank you. Well, I think we laid out some of our major things we wanted to talk about earlier. So, I think some of these things include the cybersecurity. I think that affects almost all industries, right? And as we’ve heard from, I think, even the president herself, ...

Okay. You were too successful.

You’re the person we should thank for the 6,000 NT, right?

If you don’t mind.

Wow.

I think I’d introduce myself. Patrick Lin, President of AmCham.

Sure, sure. Thank you.

Thank you.

But sorry, maybe I talk too much.

But if we can be a resource to you, if you want to talk to our member companies and say, “hey, how does XYZ operate in Japan?” “How do they operate in the US?” “Or Europe?” Our member companies operate almost everywhere and across different domains. So, a lot of ...

And in this new era… I think this is an area where your leadership can not only propel Taiwan to global standards, but lead to global standards, right? And so, I think everyone’s just very… what’s the right word… excited but anticipating what is the thinking process. And how can ...

But yes, I think you guys saw some of the things we wanted to talk about. So, a little bit about AmCham. AmCham Taiwan is the second oldest AmCham in Asia. Formed in 1951. Only Japan is older by two years. And so, we are the largest international business organization ...

I want to first of all, congratulations on moda, on the foundation of moda. And also, that I want to thank you that you guys are fighting one of the hardest fights. And so, in some ways I’m glad you are here, because I think you guys are all very ...

And so, I think our job now is also to make it easy for them to come and invest into Taiwan. And so, I think you guys are doing one of the hardest jobs in government. You guys are modernizing. You guys are…

And I think the more people we get to live in Taiwan, coming from around the world, the more they become our ambassadors. Very few times do I meet foreigners that come to Taiwan and say, oh I didn’t like it. They all love Taiwan, right? They just… They need ...