That’s so interesting. I think the part we were thinking through is maybe from the opposite, the clarity, maybe. Maybe on the outside, we didn’t see clarity to all the options that were available.

Is this falling in the default to open territory, where it’s like the most open, and people negotiate retraction?

I think it’s the spectrum that I don’t think we were clear on, as outsiders who were following and excited, but we started to reinvent, it sounds like.

10 days. I think we were having conversations that were probably rehashing and redoing some of the conversations that you had had internally about this. Is there a version of that protocol that includes the options, like a flatter...?

I didn’t know the nuance of it. I guess I knew there was a week to review.

How would I know this going...? I guess I’d read the policy on how you speak with people?

I’m OK to be recorded, by the way.

How would I know this?

What about when someone wants their identity to go into a big pseudo-handle that’s anonymous, but everyone’s in the same bucket?

Oh, I hadn’t caught that.

Is that an updated policy?

Oh, I didn’t know.

Yeah, I saw your policy.

Oh, I guess maybe by example, I’m a part of a group that we have some members who have been harassed in the past, or had stalkers. They came into our group and saw, “Oh, they’re using Slack,” and Slack isn’t open by default.

As in, you’ve spoken about it already?

I think it’s that I’m not booking. I haven’t booked appointments yet until I think through how to offer that. Some people in my community see transparency as not, they have different degrees of transparency that they’re comfortable with.

Yeah, I guess I’m trying to be conscious of the fact that some won’t talk to me unless everything is totally open. I know you would be one, since you are...

I’m just working on a consent form, which shouldn’t take that long, but I’m trying to be thoughtful about it.

I was hoping at some point to book an official interview with you. I was not imagining that was today, I guess I just wanted to hang out with you both. Is that OK?