Oh, we’re getting fancy.

Want to take a photo?

Oh, photo.

Great to meet you.

Weebs.

I don’t know that I can help. I can tell you about anime fans though.

I don’t know that I can help.

I guess.

Anyway, I’m worried, but I think you’ve managed to articulate some principles that our side could say it stands for.

Oh, nice. Yeah. There you go.

Oh, my graph?

…it’s equal to US and Europe combined. Oh yeah. No, absolutely.

Bigger than the US. Almost half the world. Well, a fifth, but then like it’s a lot. Manufacturing-wise…

It is much bigger than the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan, any of these guys.

You got to vaccinate people against the hate. I’m very worried this time for two reasons. Basically, got two reasons. Number one, China is really big.

Yes. Vaccine.

Zero COVID as an analogy to media control. That is smart.

Thanks. No, thank you.

You’re the first person I ever saw articulate, the divide of values between the two sides that was formed in a way that made sense to me.

It’s not Star Wars, but there is some real difference there. I think that the first person I saw who was able to articulate what these different sides stood for was you.

Yeah. OK. Maybe somebody did that, but they’re not angels. They’re soldiers. Then the Russian soldiers, you see the people who do raping and murdering and stuff like that, but they’re not all like that. Some of the Russian soldiers are OK, but ultimately there is a values difference that ...

Yeah. Anyway, we’re on the less bad side I hope. We’ve got to define what that means. Like what values? It’s going to be exaggerated and partially hyped and part like…You see the videos of the Ukrainian soldiers rescuing kittens and stuff like that. They’re not.

I met some people, some historians who were just telling me about the history of uprisings that were put down by the KMT and all the stuff back in the…

We are the less bad…Yes. The less wrong. The less bad side. We can name all the bad things FDR did. You can rattle them off. Not to mention our allies. The many did bad things. Like in Taiwan, Taiwan has a history of some bad things.

We are.

We had a more minor great power conflict in the ‘70s and ‘80s with the Cold War. That also I think, resolved fairly well. I’m happy it did anyway.

The fact that the allies won and that those that had the most influence over the allies and demanded that like the British Empire give up its possessions and wanted universal declaration of human rights, United Nations and all this stuff, had a real important effect that shaped the world ...

The fact that the allies won World War II and even though the allies have plenty of bad guys on our side, including Mao, I mean he was on our side.

You’re in the epicenter. Yes. It’s really bad. There’s only bad guys and worse guys when it comes to great power conflict, there’s no real good guys. The last couple of times we had great power conflict, the less bad guys won. The guys who were less bad won the ...

Yes. You’re in it and…

Oh, yeah.

It still held power and people still fought for it on both sides. Now we’re seeing, unfortunately, I never wanted to see this again in my life, but we’re seeing another era of great power conflict and I hope that would never return.

These countries were not that different, in terms of values, they didn’t really think about values. Then by World War II, people really defined the struggle as a struggle of values. They dramatically exaggerated how different how those values were.

Yes. Because when you really think about what the world is dividing into political blocks. In World War I, the political blocks didn’t really stand for different things. At least at first, Woodrow Wilson pretended they did, but really like Germany, Britain, and France.

Of love.

They’re all in the same boat metaphorically.

Got it. I see.

Got it. Only a metaphorical boat.

I see. They actually go to Taiwan. It’s not like a cruise.

Season of love. Wait, how does the Love Boat actually work? Is it actually a boat. Is there a boat people go on like a cruise or something? I don’t know about this program at all…

Yes.

Not today. That’s right. Next time. Love boat for everyone. That’s the best idea ever.

No international terrorism. Nope.

If you think about what you’re going to say, you don’t need to make edits.

I’m not sure what edits I would make to the transcript.

It’s not a commercial purpose.

Does it count as commercial use?

Can I publish this transcript as a blog post? I probably won’t, but could I?

I don’t think I have any connection with Elon to send it to. I hope he sees it.

Yeah. It was the nicest person I’ve ever met created the hate by accident. He had no idea that that’s what would happen. They just stumbled on it. Once they saw, they could change it. They weren’t creative enough to or bold enough to switch to a different business model ...