Yeah, it’s already 20 years ago.

Oolong tea.

But she’s really the constitutional and cyber law expert. I’m not.

We’ll have a budget in Congress in Taiwan next year.

I just came back from Kyoto for my family trip vacation.

For same reason we mentioned in that meeting about “dot tw” it’s just a domain. That will be recorded as “.TW”, right?

If the chair is OK with that.

In theory, is it not an issue, right?

Besides that, can she go to the meeting with the title of “digitalminister.tw”?

I would like to mention the simple issue we have talked about. If Audrey want to attend — besides the private visit to ICANN board — if Audrey would like to attend ICANN high level regional GAC or something like official meetings, of course that depend on the invitation of ...

.tw.

Or just Digital Minister.

Or you can make a deal with maybe just with Kenny or Kuo-Wei. That’s the… [laughs]

Yeah, one question. If you want to host maybe a DNS forum, do we have to submit an official letter?

Maybe we start with our collaboration with ICANN, especially what can we do for ICANN.

We will release it at a time we both agree.

I would like to remind that we have a radical transparency protocol, so we will do the audio recording during the meeting time, and that we will make a transcript.

We have find someone from the Ministry of Justice to…

羅一鈞.

Sure.

From that time to the COVID 19 is different case. SARS was maybe the first time Taiwan engaged a global pandemic, so nobody knows how to do which we strive is none. There are some arguments such as like lockdown, wear a mask, quarantine. I don’t remember that there was ...

Of course, I don’t exactly remember, but at that time, no one know how to do the most appropriate measure to react to the pandemic. We had no experience or any other experience to prevent that kind of pandemic.

There was some argument about is it necessary to lock down the hospital? The final decision is it is necessary. It was solved. Maybe that’s the major allegation.

These rulings happened in 2011. Number 690 of the Constitutional Court.

…decision of 690 of Constitutional Court just as Minister said. They said maybe it is necessary for quarantine or other necessary measure to be taken by the health agency, but there have to be specific rules and principle and special limitation in the periods of all that kind of measures. ...

Now, naming it BBS…

It’s like a social chatroom among the students.

Yeah, Audrey, you mentioned that, if the government and the other people or other citizens or at least your friends, you will check back with them frequently, they don’t believe the disinformation. Open government, maybe we try to establish a good, sound, and rapid mechanism to let people check the ...

Because for people receiving disinformation, they lose trust between government and people or among people. Maybe the open government or open society is the ultimate solution about disinformation.

We’re within that open government values. In countering disinformation, the basic idea of the open government is to rebuild the trust between government and people, or among more peoples.

Exactly.

That’s fine, yes.

Only after.

Not before publication.

Yeah, yesterday Minister Lo has mentioned all this disinformation is not so trustworthy. I mean just look at a story, just a story. [laughs] It not very serious impact to the public. Everybody knows that it’s fake.

Yeah. It’s a website link that you can open it and edit on the website.

Yeah, I have.

For a long time, it has become a policy to provide universal service of WiFi or broadband access for everyone.

NCC was founded in 2006.

Only the website remains.

Not the same for for ordinary people. The second, as Audrey mentioned, a camera or a recording in the public space, basic case of law, is allowed because it’s a public domain. But if we use video picture to identify someone or to… First of all, it has to do ...

Just to say, your selfie or photo taken by others, that is a different case because you are a public figure.

The second, make sure everything we are doing is legal. Sometimes, some legal thinking is needed.

Me, I’m in the council of the Digital Minister’s office. I come from the National Communications Commission. My previous job is the director of the Legal Department Commission. My job on this office, the first one is to improve the communication between the minister and the civil servants.

From NCC, yeah.

Every two weeks.

Yeah, but it’s different from the e-petition.

Most times, from the administrative agencies.