Thank you so much.
Sorry.
Sticking with disinformation, it’s not just the PRC that’s putting out disinformation. What if you have a global leader with a very large following on social media who is putting out disinformation, how do you counter that?
Is that going on?
Is the best way to fight disinformation reactive or more proactive? You said…
In Brazil.
Have you noticed that?
Yeah, and more motivation to distract.
In the time of the pandemic, it appears that China has…
Yeah.
Have you noticed an uptick in disinformation coming from the PRC recently?
Like AFP, the news agency, has a fact-checker?
They would flag it to one of these…
How many dedicated experts do you have, do you think, looking at this and actively countering?
I like that. That’s what we need. Would you say that Taiwan is leading the way then, globally, on countering disinformation?
Are other countries, Western countries, doing enough to counter this kind of disinformation?
…experts who are dedicated to that.
To counter the flood of disinformation that’s coming out or active operations, as you said, you need some full-time…
Typical, isn’t it?
It’s part of the government structure?
Would you say that the Chinese state has people doing this full time, pumping out disinformation…
It was the Chinese state that did the…
“Hong Kong thugs compensation exposed. Kill a police and earn up to 20 million.” Can I take a picture of it?
Especially as…
Yeah, that come to mind. It’s becoming a bigger issue around the world.
That’s interesting. It’s an excellent example. Are there any other examples that you can…
It’s being investigated?
Were the tissue paper vendors…
Is there not some kind of penalty for that.
That was a local tissue…or international?
How did you discover that?
Funny.
Really?
Wow.
After that meme?
The creator just started putting it out on social media?
Where was that initially unleashed then? Was it online? Was it on Facebook?
That’s very funny. The premier didn’t mind being used?
I didn’t notice that at first.
Premier’s buttocks? [laughs]
How do you do that? Can you give some examples?
How does that work out in a…
Is that the best weapon to counter it? What would be your lessons for other parts of the world that are starting to see more disinformation?
Can I ask you briefly on disinformation? Taiwan has been on the front line of disinformation from China and presumably others, but definitely from China, for years now.
True. Taiwan’s very lucky in that sense.
Would you say the public have been looking more to scientists than politicians for…
How has Taiwan managed to avoid that?
How has Taiwan managed to keep the issue non-political? We’ve seen some countries that have tying themselves in knots, because it’s become a very political issue.
