Are you leaving today?

No, I understand. I think it’s fantastic. I think for us this week...

This is good.

I will see if they can come. This is going to be very, very good. If I can come to Taipei, I will definitely come. I don’t need a visa to come to Taiwan, so I came already. This is wonderful idea.

I’m going to Kenya, but I will...

This is a wonderful idea. This is great. I don’t know if I’m free on the 7th. I’m going to...

If we can do that, that would be perfect.

We design many of them. We want to design the right solution, but also bring accountability into girls’ education.

If you really look into the implementation, it’s where the problem is. Then, the money that goes in sometime get diverted. What we want to do with the government, mainly, is to help them design the right solutions.

They have wishes to improve girls’ education or climate change.

One of the thing we focus on mainly for the government sector of iamtheCODE is designing policies. Most of these African government -- they’re going to come here, you’re going to hear them out -- they have probably frameworks, you call them. Or they have wishes, I call them.

If we want to do one in Senegal or in other countries, how do we do that? We just register a domain name?

This is fantastic. How can I help with this one?

They’re aware of it. That’s fantastic. Omidyar is good. I met him on the plane the other day.

This is good.

That’s good. That’s very good.

Now she’s working for Omidyar Network doing some investment. She was the first tech activist to talk about the expenditure of every month parliament.

This is amazing, because we had Kenyans. They did something where they develop a solution where they can check the salary of the ministries in Kenya. The lady who used to do that, called Ory Okolloh, she used to be the Google Policy Manager, a very, very good lady.

We should have this .africa. We should have this for Africa.

The website is what, gov...

It’s amazing.

It’s so easy.

He’s not African, no. But I know minister of ICT, minister of digital economies in Africa, I know most of them. If you need contact with them to either learn from them or suggest some ideas...

From Brussels, but he’s doing lots of work now on SDGs in Africa, in Francophone Africa, because we have a...

Things like that. She’s a minister of digital economy in Togo. Brilliant. She used to live in the US and used to work for the World Bank, and she’s now gone to Togo to take that post. They have these ideas brooming and they want to do that, they want ...

Also, Cina Lawson from Togo, she’s a woman. A brilliant woman. She is now bringing a new solution like mapping census. She’s trying to start slow, because that’s a whole process, and she doesn’t have the funding for it. I think she’s looking for funding to do those typical big ...

At African Ministers of the Digital Economies...We used to call them ministry of ICT, and now the African Ministers are called African Ministers of Digital Economy. I know two who I should connect you with. They’re really amazing. One of them is in Belgium, Alexander De Croo. I’m sure maybe ...

If you don’t have a passport, you don’t have ID card, you don’t have address, who knows? You are homeless, you’re walking on the street.

I said to my government, "If you have an SPCC in the UK of somebody missing, a data somewhere, you can track people but they can’t track anyone. That’s why there’s millions of people missing around the world, because there’s no tracking system.

Why do you think human trafficking is high in Africa? It’s because a young girl can be taken from their country without nobody knowing. That’s how I was trafficked as a young girl. Traffickers, they can traffic easily if you don’t have a identity or birth certificate.

At the ministry of planning there’s no system into place to do this, or they’re not asking the Africans, the young people who design the census app. When I went to help Kofi Annan and did the apps for Africa, what I did is that I helped them understand about ...

I said to him, "Who’s counting?" and I said, "OK. Who is the minister of planning?" I said, "Minister of Planning, est-ce que vous faites...?" "Oui, mais, you we doing this, we doing this." I ask these difficult questions. It’s not because they don’t know how to do it.

Senegal don’t even have a census. Every 10 years in the UK we have a census date, but in Senegal, it’s not even mandatory to do the census. I took this to the government of Kinshasa. If you go to Kinshasa, how many millions of people are you? One guy ...

These people, they have the talk, they have the platforms, but they don’t have the eggs to make anything. Then the ego is so big, and also the lack of empathy and compassion that are also relating to people is not there, so all they think about, "You know, OK. ...

[laughs] No, they don’t have a motivation, but also there’s no mechanism. My learning about the whole thing is that if you don’t have the eggs, you can’t make omelet. This is my thinking. My thinking is if you don’t have the eggs, you cannot make an omelet.

Also, these people...For example, in my country it’s not mandatory to register your child. You don’t have to, because some women have 13 children or 10 children in some remote place of Africa. They only start thinking about birth certificate when the child is maybe 17 or 18, but it’s ...

I went to see the lady. I said to her, "Missing millions? How many are we missing now?" [laughs] That’s why I think it’s very urgent that we actually put a blockchain platform together about these topics. Urgently.

I’m part of the missing millions of the data, that’s why I don’t understand where the data’s coming from, from UNESCO. But they have this missing million report done by the...I think it’s an organization. It’s not OECD, but there’s an organization in London.

It has to come from an organization, credible organization, like our organization to get this done. We see the girls everywhere, but I don’t think those girls are...I was a missing data. I’m part of the missing millions. I never had a birth certificate, so I don’t think you can ...

At the moment there’s no mechanism for this to go down, and if you google it right now, if you go to UNESCO website, it’s the same data, over 65 million. I have no idea where this data is coming from, and I think this...

She said, "No, but we collect the data to the consultant and to the countries." I just think that if we have a blockchain platform to track and then to help these people understand, the 130 million will go up or down.

It’s been happening for the last...Every year. It’s like the World Economic Forum Gender Report. Every year they had...It’s all the 10 years, another 5. I sat with the lady who’s writing it. I said, "What is the methodology behind what you say? Because sometime you said to me it’s ...

I sincerely believe from my heart that the blockchain platform will be the best way to show if the number has gone up or down. We need to have a conversation about this 130 million because it’s going everywhere, on infographs, on the reports, everywhere.

I just think that no one has ever planted this seed in their head to say, "Actually, it could be maybe 160 million. It could be maybe less than that," but there is no system.

Everybody is using the same data, so I went and challenged them. I said, "Are you sure? Surely can I have a look at this data? How is this collected? How did you make up this number?" None of them can tell me, and I don’t think they’re trying to ...

The data hasn’t changed, and so I ask them, I ask the minister, I met her, I said, "So who is collecting this data? Are you sure? Until now? 130 million?" It’s the same data. Bill Gates use it. Melinda Gates use it. UNICEF use it.

It hasn’t changed.

If you google UNESCO now and ask how many children don’t have access to education, the same data, 130 million, they’ve been using this for nearly five years.

I think that’s what is important. For example, if you look at one of the things I’ve been checking for the last couple of years, UNESCO, they’re the only organization, it’s not credible.

At the moment, you’re going to hear this a lot this week, like, "Girls’ education, girls’ education," and then on Friday when we leave... forget about it.