Thank you.

That’s what I was going to say. If you wouldn’t mind, we would love to stay in touch. As an institute, we’re also grappling with what our role should be in supporting those who are trying to stem this tide of disinformation. We would love to stay connected with thought ...

It’s fascinating.

Still considering.

Facebook?

Sorry, just to clarify, Twitter published all the raw data?

That’s interesting.

Yes. That’s why I’m interested to see how much is actually catching hold.

Each of the measures you put forward requires that level of cooperation.

I think that’s the piece that’s difficult, is the trust and working relationship between the public sector, and as you’re describing it, the social sector. We see a very uneven picture across Asia when it comes to that trust.

What has resonated with them? How have they taken what you’ve done and contextualized it for their own experience?

I’m glad that you brought this back up, because I’m interested that you started off with the SDGs. I’m just thinking, how can others learn from your experience? You mentioned a number of different frames and models, the SDGs, the epidemics, the spam model. Have you engaged other governments about ...

Thank you.

I wonder if that’s available in the United States.

Before the next election, you said?

Oh, OK. I see.

Right, but that’s all user based. Is that accurate?

I mean at Facebook or at any of these technology platforms, there’s nobody going through a deliberative process to…

It’s not relying on any humans to do any type of verification. Is that accurate?

Yes, Winnie the Pooh. Never would have imagined it took on such political connotations.

I heard about that.

Competition.

…are funny, can be responsive, understand?

Does it mean that you need to -- I’m just thinking from a mechanical standpoint -- have to start building capacity within each of your ministries for people who…

So trial and error.

(laughter)

Kip may want to dive in.

No, just for the civil society portion. We’re going to meet a number of folks in government, in the private sector, foundations, interspersed throughout the week.

Oh, OK. We’ll see you there as well.

AIT is working with TFD for the conference on INFO/tegrity, but then there’s also a launch of the Indo Pacific Governance Consultations…

Yeah, still feeling OK.

Perhaps later in the day.