So it might be illegal. [laughter]

Of course, fishing is not under your administration. But as a conditional minister, your words in the government are very important and very respected. We hope that you can do something to improve our industry. Thank you very much.

Fishermen are scattered in different vessels. It’s very difficult to organize them. With Wi-Fi, if Wi-Fi is used, then they can do that. They can have collective bargaining. They can have industrial action, strike. It is a very active and healthy way to bargain for their rights. So, I think ...

The FAA also said that satellite phone is also an option. Mina already said that is almost impossible. That is expensive and usually controlled by the captain. Wi-Fi is something the fishermen themselves can use. They can be active to link with others. All of our friends already mentioned that ...

For example, the Falkland Islands, which belongs to England, they don’t make it compulsory, but they strongly recommended fishing vessels in their waters to share Wi-Fi to the fishermen. If the vessels don’t share Wi-Fi to the fishermen, they won’t have some preferable practices. They can’t even get into it. ...

The FAA, the Fisheries Agency, often said that we have to see if there is any common practice in other countries. Maybe it is not compulsory yet, but there are some good practices we can see.

I think Wi-Fi is a very key thing. From the US side, I think, aside from the description of the TIP report, and also some sanctions, there is NOAA, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. They also highlighted nine countries. Taiwan is one of them, who has the bad records ...

Actually, everyone is concerned about the fishing condition. Taiwan is one of the biggest receiving countries of migrant fishermen. A lot of people in the world know the condition is not good. False labor and human trafficking is a very common issue. I think all of us, we are all ...

Of course, we are not part of ASEAN, but I am the only one from Taiwan to join the meeting. I presented in the workshop to present the fishing condition in Taiwan. That is a panel, so I am one of the speakers.

I just came back from Indonesia after Johnson and Rob. I went to a joint meeting of SDSC APM. That is a summit of people’s organization in all ASEAN countries.

And we shelter, part of our shelter, the guests we shelter are migrant workers, sorry, migrant fishermen, including the coastal fishing and distant water fishing. Yes. Thanks.

We shelter the migrant workers from the Philippines, Vietnam and Indonesia, and we also do policy advocacy works, and we joined this Wi-Fi campaign since the beginning of this year. We’re very glad to be here.

I’m Lennon Wong from Serve the People Association. It’s a big organization in Taiwan.