In the Kaohsiung parade.
How serious do you feel the problem is? In Taiwan, I mean.
There was also a report of the V‑Dem Institute in Sweden saying that Taiwan is number‑one when it comes to foreign dissemination.
I think after 2016 elections in the US and after last year’s elections in Taiwan, there’s a lot of attention for disinformation.
As of today from when they started doing that.
Ah, OK. I thought it’s today.
Is that increasing?
Yeah.
Those numbers are terrible.
Oh my God.
Today, this is disinformation?
Who decides?
…disinformation about a minister or ministry has to be…
Every…
It also goes much more viral than just…
The other thing is humor?
Yeah. Of course, I hope to ask a lot of questions about disinformation. Does it also in that sense help to limit disinformation?
And on the public discussion about your work?
Do you notice an effect on the…
Why is that?
How do you note it, then?
Sometimes to protect sources or to protect partners…
There is no off the record, actually.
Because you always have to be careful not to say anything off the record?
I think it’s not only a lot of work but way more difficult for you, no?
Is that checked a lot?
Yeah, yeah. They can’t say, “Hey, Minister Tang said that,” and you could still quote back to…
The idea is that if something is published…?
I thought it was just like an audio file, and that sometimes you make a transcript?
You make really transcripts?
