Thank you. Thanks, Kamala. See you soon.

Go on, Kamala.

Awesome. Audrey, we’ve heard some fantastic stories. Thank you so much for taking the time to talk to us.

Great. Finally, a charity or an enterprise social that you could recommend?

A book?

Maybe quite a niche podcast there.

Great. What about a podcast?

Speaking of Twitter, perhaps not one of your troll friends but we ask everyone that we speak to, to help recommend some things for our listeners. Could you start us off with a Twitter account that we could follow?

How many of them actually do that, come to your office hours?

What is that? How do you do it?

That sounds like an incredibly fun team to work in. I’d love to. Some more fun stuff now. We read that you enjoy troll hugging.

[laughs]

Conservative anarchist, OK. That’s not something that we typically associate with being in government. How do you reconcile those two worlds?

One of the other experiences you mentioned earlier was that you identify as an anarchist.

Do you think it gives you any different insights to be first all the time?

You’re the first digital minister and you’re one of the first young ministers and the first post-gender minister.

That is an insight into inclusion that I never would have expected to get from this. That is so fascinating. Thank you.

Perfect. I’ll have to get one. You mentioned fun and having this amazing time working across lots of different organizations and open source. You lived a lot of people’s dream in retiring from private sector at the age of 33. How did you make that decision?

Optimize for fun. I think I should make that into a standard of excellence. [laughs]

Wow. You mentioned that you started a couple of organizations and companies. Can you explain a little more?

Absolutely, yes. That was really in line with our principles and our mission for the world of governments. That’s great to hear. In the tech world you’re obviously really well-known for the work you’ve done in the open-source community. Can you tell us a little bit about how that came ...

Excellent. We are at the Forward 50 Conference here in Ottawa. It’s snowing outside, so we’ve had a typical Canadian welcome. How have your past few days been?

Hello, and welcome to the "OneTeamGov" show, a podcast featuring conversations with awesome people doing interesting stuff in the public sector. We appreciate you taking the time to join us and we have an amazing interview we know you’re going to love. My name is Kylie.

That’s worth it. OK. We can start. Can you hear Kamala OK?

Is it just automatic translation that’s done by machine?

All right. Just before we start, just to say that when we’re recording, feel free to take a pause, say something again if you’d rather say it differently. Everything I hope it’s all smooth. You’re recording because your meetings go online. Is that right?

It’s a very Canadian welcome.

It’s super early in the morning for you, hey?

We have my good friend Kamala dialing in. Hey, Kamala.