Thank you.

They all look so similar nowadays.

Thank you very much. This was…

If I find someone who’s willing to get into this, just get in touch with your office?

ICRT is the next one?

Thanks a lot.

There will be a platform where I can log in and I’ll say, “I want to give my voucher to this organization?”

I did touch on that subject in my reporting over the years, time and again. Unlike some other foreign reporters in Taiwan, I’m not that deep into that, but I know who to contact and to try…

We still have some time. It’s only supposed to start in July, right?

We have 6 or 7 hundred thousand migrant workers in Taiwan. You only need 6 or 7 hundred thousand people who are willing to say, “There’s someone who needs them more than me. I forgo my voucher right…”

Let’s make it. You will talk to the Interior Ministry about that?

And have NHI cards. What about the possibility to dedicate your consumption vouchers to, for example, the migrant worker community so they…

I know of foreigners who would be qualified because they’re married here. They say they don’t find it fair that, for example, migrant workers, who also have ARCs, live in Taiwan long term, and pay taxes here…

You could say somebody does or does not have an ARC. That’s a pretty clear line you can draw.

Not your decision, but you need to go with it, probably. It was made by some other ministry.

Yes.

In this case, for example, not every foreigner living in Taiwan with an ARC is eligible. It’s only the ones who are married who can…

With the mask rationing system, you introduced the opportunity to dedicate your masks, to give them away.

Yeah, but a lot of people are.

Then where you go, you pick up your voucher, you buy your vouchers, and then you go shopping with them.

You are convinced it’s the best way to distribute, to get the money to the people, is by using a system like this?

President Tsai visited pharmacies and…

Unlike the mask rationing.

Stimulus voucher implementation press conference. Are you satisfied with the way things are going? You are not involved in everything, but it’s pulling quite a lot of, an usual amount of criticism, don’t you think so?

Another big appointment for you this week was the consumption voucher implementation.

I don’t see anyone looking at their watches.

Did anything happen to give you that idea?

At what point did you realize, “This is what I want more people to be working towards, and this is what I want to do something to achieve”?

Rough consensus.

At what point did you realize that it is your aim to find common ground between opposing groups, that you aim to have…It’s not consensus. You said some consensus.

What was the last law initiative where the vTaiwan debate had a direct impact on? Was it the revenge porn thing that’s being debated right now?

What about pension reform? The civil servants who are getting less money now, could you get some of those on board to support the general idea?

I know. They got the extra law instead of amending the civil code.

I mean between the two camps, between the opposing camp and…

The party asset thing, those have all been highly controversial. It doesn’t look to me like there was a lot of common ground that people or the government was…

The big reform projects, like marriage reform, pension reform.

If I look at the big reform projects of the last term of the government, the…

You try to find common ground between the opposing camps.

Also, your aim is to reduce controversy and two camps fighting each other.

You think most people are aware of that, that they will take a close look at who is this app made by? Is it open source?

This is also an infrastructure that could be used by non-responsible party to secretly read all your messages, get some kind of data out of there. How do you prevent that?

You don’t think there are? OK. Talking about data privacy, there was another thing I saw you mentioning, the Dr. Message app. This is basically a bot that you invite into your chats, and it’s reading all your messages.

There are?

You reach everyone in Taiwan?

Let’s say people you don’t reach, where you realize, “I cannot reach through to them.” Who are they?

My impression is that most Taiwanese, at least the ones I talk to, they like you, or at least they respect you. There are probably also a certain percentage of people who do not like what you are doing, or maybe who reject you personally. Who are those? Is it ...

As long as they can make so much money, they have no reason to.

Would you hope that there are differently organized alternatives to Facebook and to Twitter that people would be using instead?

You don’t see a problem with president making political announcement on Facebook first, thereby basically forcing everyone to go there?

It has become like a search engine for Facebook posts, basically.