I’ll do that later.

The Internet connection is not very strong. [laughs]

Yeah, connection.

That’s great. I’m just curious. This model, I could see a lot of innovation in my view. It’s also doing that partner with business one and then giving out the guide. Similar model, it’s facilitate a lot of good stuff, so I do like to approach that…

Wow.

Really?

When is your next appointment coming?

Yesterday, I have a problem sending an email to you. That was that because the file is too big.

Let me send you before I walk out. It’d be easier.

In the future, I think we can spread it out, depends on the schedule. If it’s kids, we can make it to two parts. That’s one way to simplify.

30-something domain in there.

It’s 170 questions.

It’s always. I know the current version is a little bit long because until we can do some data prediction and simplify it, we have…

We’re constantly improving its…I don’t know how many words. [laughs] User testing.

Yeah, I could send you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

I’m starting learning about the business research partnership. [laughs] I have some idea, but I’m not quite there as a business plan I can do.

…three months. I have to come back once every year. It worked out last year, and so I’m going to continue doing that, especially when I have my own project and I do a lot of conference call.

I come back because COVID. I work from home. I’m going to make this as…

We’ll start from there.

Then we can contact…

Is it OK to email you?

I see. This is great. How can I continue make connection with you? [laughs]

The work speed is so much faster here. The partnership, learning from my US colleague and do it locally, that would be an ideal partnership. It could be a much faster way of scaling.

I know. [laughs]

That’s also where Taiwan’s relationship in Africa still pretty good. [laughs] People could tell what machines was made in Taiwan. [laughs] Wait, we got to go there. [laughs] If I’m doing work there, what’s the connection? [laughs]

That’s great. That’s the dream thing that I want to do more. I do think, for example, Africa is like 70 percent are under age 30. In a few years, this big population doesn’t have a job. The innovation, helping them it’s in some way to adjust that issue. Education, ...

Their targeting SDG as well.

Some of those long term tracking, that’s something that they’re also interested. I am wondering, in Taiwan, do we think about those global partnership approach…?

Yeah. I’m also curious because my work in global health, that’s also something I’m interested in. I do see a lot of thing that we develop can be globalized, but also looking for resource from global. Some of my African work is I discussion with UNICEF.

That process, I know there’s a way to connect with them, but you have successful example to get.

OK. The resources from government, right?

That’s great. Where should we go? [laughs]

You’re tracking those indexes.

Wondering about the expertise piece, because sometimes it’s more efficient. How does that process work in terms of bringing the evidence?

I see. Some say a lot of module approaches, not like the whole package. Is this government-supported?

Who is doing those kind of technology supported by this platform?

Yeah. If it is some education platform, it’s already well-established and integrated into that it’s much easier.

Coaching support to the teacher to the parents and continued support, that’s very important. That’s why it’s good to have a government system or whatever agency system to have that long-term service support.

It should be locally. Those are training local people, and then have them to create a video. That’s something that we are in that process to develop in the Ugandan context. The virtual format, it’s also very interesting. From the literature, we know there’s a different way of mix it ...

Integrate into that part of that system, it’s actually more efficient. Those are things that we’re testing in Africa because there’s no school mental health system, it’s much easier to try out new things. In US context, we have to work within the existing system, to identify where would be ...

We are also thinking developing the video version that would allow us to scale in a better way. At the same time, how do we integrate into education system so it’s a more sustainable approach? Whether the teacher training center, or as I see as similar to Taiwan.

It’s different. The teacher program, that’s a whole different program training teacher on the strategies that they could use to help the kids. It’s like the parenting program. Right now, we’re integrated into the education training system. In the past, usually for in-service, like teacher already teaching, we have to ...

A lot of mental house issues is a history. It’s not just the parents, it’s their kids, all related. [laughs]

For the senior, because I’m like, “Wait, they’re over-utilized.”

Without helping them, it’s not going to work. We also think about the well-being, social, emotion issue need for adult as well. That’s why the adult version comes up, and then I was like, “Wait, adult version if…” I’m just thinking about as an adult helping my parents, I was ...

It’s much easier to managing when kids can express it, and how do we help parents. That’s a lot of interventions that I’m focused in 3 to 10, and then now it’s Alice that I’m also focusing on. Because in the school context, adult also helping those kid, it’s like ...

Yeah. Infancy piece, I don’t get involved because that’s a whole different work.

Now, I see 3 to 8 years old or 10 years old, that could be a same model. The intervention that we’ve been testing this strategy apply to that age range. After that, it become like an Alice and virgin because the developmental process, the focus is a little bit ...