This was really nice.

Thank you.

It sounds great. I think that’s all that I had. Let me check. Yeah.

Are you optimistic that all these digital efforts will reduce this brain drain concept?

What’s that looking like right now?

I had a question on, very specific question on a digital healthcare.

OK, tell me about that.

Non-erosion of freedom of speech. I don’t know how much time I have left with you, but I think I have two more questions. Taiwan digital currency. I know there’s not much of an effort, do you think there could be or will be?

What kind of an impact do you think you’re having there on the cyber norms conversation?

This year?

I know you went to the UN, right?

What happens? Does Taiwan have to make a decision, eventually, to continue to be part of that? Is it even possible to make that decision the way sort of supply chains work?

I mean with all-in, with all the components of it, to have Taiwan’s input in that?

Could you argue that you couldn’t have Chinese 5G without Taiwan?

Exactly. One, do you think maybe that will happen, and then two, how does Taiwan fit into that, if that happens?

Interesting. My next question is a little bit maybe more theoretical. In the US, obviously the US-China trade war takes up a lot of people’s attention who are in the field that I’m in. There’s this idea that what you see in 5, to 10, to 15 years is a ...

It’s implemented. OK, how’s that going?

I was looking at I think this was ongoing, or maybe it’s completing now, but this idea of political advertising online, and who is held responsible, is that Facebook or is it that…?

Now it’s a major topic. What changed? How did that happen? Was it the…?

At the time my job was to try to locate areas where there could be more overlap between election meddling between Taiwan and the US online. At the time nobody, maybe cares is the wrong word, but it wasn’t something people were talking about.

I’ve been using it while I’m here, it’s been very easy. Let’s move in another direction. I, in 2015, I spent a summer in the Office of Taiwan Coordination at the State Department, I was a graduate student intern. I was on the cybersecurity portfolio for the office.

Then it was picked up by your office, and it goes through to the…

That was an idea that was introduced by the public, or was entered…?

This was via…?

I know you’re pretty heavily involved, in the Uber decision.

Are these the same people that are voting, are these people that are…?

It seems like you have a high number of people who are interested in joining.

I was going to ask about that. How many people voted in the 2016 election, 60 percent in Taiwan?

VTaiwan is that…

Digital transformation of the public sector. That is sort of in regards to - trying to remember the – it’s not eTaiwan, but the program…

To broaden it out a little bit, if Tsai gets four more years, what does that mean for you?

Tell us about it as Americans.

How much regulatory change had to be introduced to change the environment here?

Were you reaching out to them via the government, or were they reaching out to you? How did that happen? Was it this initiative that led to that?

I was very impressed by that. I followed the Google, and the IBM, and the list just goes out here too, right?

Three years?

How old is the Asia·SV project?

I wanted to know about the Asia-Silicon Valley first, because I was there, and I experienced Silicon Valley. How is it going here? Is the intention to be like Palo Alto, or is the intention to be a different version that is more…?

Very good.

I talk to people who are government, talk to people who are in business. I talk to American people in Taiwan. I wanted to talk to you. Actually, I went to school at Stanford. I know that you lived in Palo Alto?

I come here once a year to do research, to talk with people. Do you mind if I take some notes?

It’s a consulting company. We work with businesses and help the understand politics. It’s a lot of multinational businesses, mostly American and European. I’m responsible for Taiwan, and some of mainland China.

Do you know anything about my organization, the Eurasia Group?

Thanks for meeting with me.