Thank you. Great. I really appreciate your time. It was inspiring meeting you and getting a sense of how you are thinking. We have a few follow-on actions on our side, on the tech side, and including work we will reach out to NICS. I look forward to a great ...

Got it. Noted and we’ll go and check.

Yes, and we have a team in Taiwan to do that as well, so we’ll work on that. So, we’ll follow up that with NICS.

Yes. Yes, it’ll be external.

Absolutely. We worked on it for years. And equally so, I think one of the things Mandiant does very well is surface assessments. And for any digital service, there’d be very alarming outcomes, even the more secure of organizations. So, that’s another place we could actually work to give you ...

Okay.

Good. With your support, we will reach out to NICS and we will build that engagement.

And who would you suggest we work with on cyber?

So, Mandate is one more kind of a services capability and sharing all the best practices, tools, and then the broader Google capability as well. We can work offline with your team on the details of that.

You’ve heard about them. So really, they are the ones that governments call when there is a cyber risk. That’s really the gold standard. So that’s an acquisition we made that basically incident response, threat management. And we can bring in all the best practices to your cybersecurity team, including ...

That is the basic. We recently made an acquisition of a company called Mandate, which I’m not sure you’ve heard of…

Got it. Yes, absolutely. Short answer. Yes, we will come back with the trusted access for PaLM. And by the way, we work very closely with Anthropic as well, so there’s a new partnership there.

Yes, I understand. Absolutely. With your data, right?

Yes, they are the foundational models. The only thing is we’re still working on the language access. So, that’s work in progress. We are, again, as I said, the barriers for us really are the caution around hallucination, bias. Those are the problems we should be very sure about. So, ...

Sure.

I have two suggestions to make, and we will work with your team on that. And that would be a deeper collaboration on cybersecurity and on AI. I’ll share the same core example. If we have your alignment on this, we would like to work with your team to develop ...

I’ll revert back to you on this.

Yeah, I’ll go with you.

I would have to revert back. We will revert to you right back. I will check to make sure the roadmap, I don’t end up giving you wrong information. So please allow me to check with the Workspace team and revert back to you.

Yes.

We will send you a paper on this one.

Sure. And would you be okay if we shared more details offline with you?

So, there are three ways we handle that. If you would like more details, we are happy to furnish this.

What we’ve developed is a Google distributed cloud hosted environment, where we actually put all that capability, there’s a roadmap for that, and bring it into your private cloud. It is completely air-gapped, it does not touch the internet. We can talk about who manages it. We can manage with ...

The third is special specific workloads that you would not simply send out of your infrastructure, for whatever reasons. Could be defense, security, or anything else. For that, minister, what we’ve done is, ultimately the goal is to provide you the hyperscale capability with all the innovation. I believe we ...

We then have the second layer of assured workloads, which need a certain level of privacy, including encryption keys, etc. Where we share with you the key management, which is totally owned by you, but still, it runs on the public cloud infrastructure. These are assured workloads encrypted by special ...

If I may, I caught the essence of the conversation. There are three ways we handle government workloads. One, workloads for which the data is available in public domain, which are not really private, that can run on standard public cloud with standard security.

But those are the two main things. Of course, there is government cloud, which we are very keen to discuss more deeply with you. And anything else that you would like to highlight as well.

It’s fine, right? So, we’ll make sure we get you the trusted access. I actually checked in while coming today. So, I’ll figure out… Stella, I’ll work with you to get you a trusted access. And that should give you the first flavor of how we are bringing AI to ...

It’s actually available. We can get you a Trusted Tester program. It’s unfortunately still in English.

And finally, it’s about the ecosystem of startups. How do you encourage the ecosystem of startups? So, that’s a fairly deep partnership. We are off the blocks on that. We’d love to explore how you’re thinking about AI more broadly, but Gen AI more in particular as well. Some of ...

And really giving our learnings as we’ve been working on in terms of what should be the framework or policy standard. Of course, it’s the government’s call, we just give suggestions.

We recently, about three weeks ago, announced a very deep partnership with the Singapore government, which had really four aspects of partnership. One, of course, bring use cases into government. Second, help Singapore as one of the hubs in the globe as a developer for AI. So, really building the ...

One of the things we are doing with governments across the world, of course, we start in a slow way to make sure everyone understands, is to deeply partner, not just to have government as an AI user, but how do you actually help the government with their vision for ...

What to not do as well. That is equally important. And that is possibly been the one reason that we’ve been extremely cautious. Our entire focus has been around privacy, explainability, bias, security. Those have been our very big concerns that we’ve been working on very deeply.

The second, minister, is really about deeply talking about AI. How are you thinking about AI? And how does it apply to government, not just as a user, but how are you thinking about the ecosystem within the country as well? And how do you foster? Clearly, there has been ...

And you are an expert, so I try not to… [laughter] But I think cybersecurity is one. How can we better collaborate with the government to support your goals, support your architectural needs? Of course, we have deep capability as Google. And very recently, we’ve also made some very significant ...

Today, my goal is to, one, understand your imperatives. What are the big things that you have in mind? And there are two things that I thought would be very interesting to discuss with governments. And always, these are top of mind, cybersecurity, cyber risk.

And my main purpose to come here today is to, one, get connection to you and reiterate our commitment to this country. In fact, this is one of the largest footprints for Google across Asia Pacific and we are proud of that. We have a lot of representation across all ...

Thank you, minister. It’s really a pleasure that I have the opportunity to come to Taiwan after a very long time and I was pleasantly surprised. I’ve been here for about 48 hours now, met a lot of customers, experienced the wonderful place. This is the vibrancy. I actually visited ...

Sure. Thank you, Stella. Do you want me to switch on the mic or is that okay?