Thank you very much, Audrey.

Yes. [laughs] We are working on it.

....and very dynamic. I hope that in Europe, we see more and more hackers that can actually shape and relate to the new generations.

I think you are very lucky here in Taiwan to have the legacy that you are creating. There is a government that is very enlightened. You are very young in spirit, in mind, but also...

Fantastic, and you totally understand how to speak to Europeans.

Hopefully, law experts that are watching us understand the nuance and understand how valuable is this transfer...

So it’s very much like law?

I’m curious, why do you shift it to code?

Code sometimes is a little bit more boilerplate, no? Algorithm is at the core, like how does it function.

That’s a fantastic suggestion. Also, should we talk about code? What is the difference between code and algorithms?

The most powerful impact that they have, and what can be fixed? What can be improved?

What is the impact that you see in your work, and on the society of Taiwan, of algorithms?

Basically, I am here to ask you about the platform that we run, Algorithmic Sovereignty Observatory in Europe.

...also anarchist, fantastic.

You remind me of our friend, Birgitta Jónsdóttir, that is also a great poet, and a great minister as well...

We are... [laughs] That’s very unpredictable and fantastic.

I have the honor to be here with the Digital Minister of Taiwan: Audrey.

We are the lucky guests of the conference on the intelligent urban fabric.

Hi, everyone! I am in Taipei with all the Dyne.org crew.