2014?

Can we talk a little bit about when you first went into government, it was like 2017?

Have you been in touch with the Ukrainians about readiness at all? Have you talked to them about…

I was very curious about why there was such a big focus on video conferencing and all of this. Why does it matter that much?

So, you won’t have to just yield to Starlink?

Yeah, for LEO.

But…

What if you’re stuck with Starlink as your only option?

And you’re just going to extend those agreements with all those providers as long as necessary?

Oh, okay. I thought it was Channel News Asia. You’re messing with me!

Wow! That’s not biased. I’m joking.

Wow!

Okay, that’s fine. I’m in with that.

Right, so she’s going to be really unhappy with you.

Excellent. Okay. Sorry, I’m sorry. She’s not happy with me.

Well, I don’t have anything until the afternoon. She’s being very…

This whole week?!

No!

I don’t know what your schedule is like for the rest of the week. I’m here until Saturday. Do you think we could schedule some more time? Because I wanted to talk about just you, like interview you personally as well about your…

So many more questions.

Yeah.

Wow. Guys, did you hear I asked the question of the century? Okay, you got that on video? Excellent! I’m so happy.

Do you think it’s naive of the US to say, we can control this or we can find ways to put guardrails on it and make it safe?

What’s you’re feeling on like… I don’t want to use this, but I’ve heard it so much recently, the AI arms race. The idea that the voice capability is there, the video capability is there. One side of the world is like, we should slow down and be careful. And ...

What do you make of it? In the US, they’re having a completely different conversation. They want to slow AI down. They want people to be very careful about it. And when I was in the States recently, and I said, I promise you, Beijing is not having this conversation ...

… this earthquake.

Awww. Please don’t drive Gollum into this…

I love Lord of the Rings. What are you talking about? Are you talking about Gollum?

You think AI is going to be…

Yeah, exactly. When you sort of look at it, though, I mean, I guess this is more a question for the cyber authority or something. But like the preponderance of attacks and things that you have to encounter. How would you sort of rate the cyber resiliency of Taiwanese institutions ...

How would you sort of rate Taiwan’s cyber maturity though? Particularly, I mean, I would think that since you’re such a relentless target, that it would be a little more…

What does that tell you? I mean, obviously, this is another factor in the digital resilience. But what does that signify to you?

Not so apparently on the Chinese APT side. And so apparently, the healthcare sector was impacted in this way. Is that something that you’ve kind of noticed?

They’re not asking for money. They’re just locking stuff up. They’re just hacking and just encrypting and creating chaos. It’s not like there’s a financial… Because obviously, this is something that the Russian sort of affiliated hackers that do ransomware, it’s very financially driven.

I want to ask something different. I cover cyber in Asia and you were just mentioning the DDoS attack. I understand from some of the researchers who I met last week at Black Hat, some of your Taiwanese colleagues, they were saying that there’s been an uptick in Chinese APT ...

Okay. How much is it going to cost?

Oh.

Did they apply?

Okay. So, one side of them is all in on the disaster relief and they’re ready to do the testing and verification. For how many receivers, do you know?

Have they tied the two together? Have they made it sort of conditional?

Okay. I’m trying to get my head around what the sort of the issue is. Has there been issues with Starlink that you have found in this whole process?

Okay. When you say testing and verification, can you explain what that means?

Are they part of the testing and verification?

So, Starlink can have 100% if you like, so that’s fine?

Yeah.

Which is 60% for Starlink.

So, Japan offered disaster with a road to commercial.

What is Starlink saying?

No, no, no. What’s the takeaway?

Well, I’m not going to be able to read it, so why don’t you tell me what the headline is?