Bye.

Thank you.

ありがとうございます.

Yeah.

How can we work to become whole-earth citizens? What can we do in our local environment and work towards a shared vision?

We have one last question for you.

Should we go to the last question?

Oh, it’s a lowercase AU?

Yes, Japan, paper, paper, paper.

What will be happening in the coming year? What do you think?

That will be soon?

At one point, that bringing closer digitally and our physical space, they do need to come together.

This idea of borders, it’s amplified during this time because of the shutting of borders, that’s something that happened this year.

Do you think there shouldn’t be any borders in the future?

[laughs] That’d be more positive.

When this is extended to other countries, how do you think governments can…

With these hackathons, it’s working very well in Taiwan because these ideas are actually implemented.

Wow. How do you see these initiatives expanding in the future? What do you imagine and wwhat do you wish for?

Do you have a date set, or are you still coordinating…

That’s interesting because the way our devices are developing, they are going more to be an extension of ourselves, and it’s becoming closer and closer. Maybe it would be very in touch with our bodies. Right now, we can touch the screen or not touch the screen, but people are ...

How do you build that intimacy?

…as many people won’t be able to experience this shared virtual world.

Are there other instances where these kind of experiences can be shared?

That experience, does that translate back to daily life?

It’s hard to see what’s real and what’s not real. What would you say to people like this? Both of us were a bit skeptical on that.

I guess right now there’s a detachment between the physical and the digital. But like you said, if that becomes much more together, and you don’t see this detachment anymore, I think many people would also be very scared of this because there’s a anti for new technology or developing ...

Going back to the relationship between the digital and the physical, how do you think…We see your vision of how the digital would develop or even how religion has a place in digital world. How do you see the physical world developing alongside in the future? Kind of also in ...

How do you stay proactive about it? What do you do about it? You can calm your thoughts, but do you do anything to take action?

Do you use the same method not just for personal attacks, but for instance, you read something very negative on the news, or you’re feeling the negative effects of the damage that’s happening to the environment, or about climate change?

Sleep is the balancing factor for everything maybe.

Would you say everyone should take eight hours of sleep for society to function better? [laughs]

[laughs]

I guess your relationship with the digital and the physical is very fast and there’s not much of a lag between them, which you say, you meet people and go there and talk to them and also act as observer, but you implement their ideas very quickly. How do you ...

Even while other countries are trying to do things, too, like you said, like rivers, how would that work? How can this be part of people’s understanding of how the democracy could work?

Like you just mentioned, but the big question is how our democracy can consider other living beings or our planet, and how that can be included in the democracy? How do you think that can happen? It’s a very abstract thought to many people.

Climate change is a pressing issue, now and very much into the future.

How about for the WHO? Any thoughts on that?

I want to ask your thoughts on some existing transnational organizations. What are your thoughts on the WHO or the United Nations, and what you think of their current role, and what you think, how they might evolve in the future?

Or community, let’s say world community…

Going back to the idea of world governance…

Very inclusive.

There’s a lot of encouragement of people participating and doing than just taking in information, which I guess you can encourage from a very young age, but as we’re all learning as we get older. How would you encourage people who are maybe in the older generation to participate more?

[laughs] Than other places.

…on privacy and how data is used. What makes you stay hopeful about this model of…

The initial idea, the formation of the Internet is that, but there’s a lot of growing suspicion…

That’s for sure.

Do you think this pre-planning is what makes a successful demonstration? I think you’ve said that securing communication is key in the movement, but in many cases, when landlines, mobile phones, or the Internet is disrupted by the government everything goes the other way. What would you say makes a ...

Was that structure pre-planned? I think…

How did that solidarity form? How did you communicate between these different diverse groups?

You’re working with what you have. Yeah, I guess for other countries, there’s many cases where there’s already a mistrust towards the government, so it’s hard for citizens to accept any new forms of…